Posts by excito-are

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Questions to ask yourself about Jehovahs Witnesses

by sabastious in

questions to ask yourself about jehovahs witnesses.

why are the watchtower society leaders kept behind a curtain?

why cant the average witness name their leaders?

excito-are

For the JW who is happy with his faith and has verry little education, the questions above are easily answered and pose no problem whatsoever. Sadly that is the majority of JW

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Resurrection of Lazarus only mentioned by John, not others, why?

by VM44 in

why is it that the story of the resurrection of lazarus of bethany only is mentioned in the book of john and not in the other three gospel accounts of the life of jesus?.

the resurrection of lazarus was a major event in the life of jesus, but three writers failed to mention it, why?.

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The authors of the gospels all used sources, for instance the sources of Q, the non-markan material was used by Matthew and Luke. However, John used other sources which am sorry, but cant quite remember. But I do recall it was to make the point he was a miracle worker and that his works were more powerful than Elijah and Elisha thus showing him to be superior to the OT prophets. The many stories of Jesus in the NT is to show him more powerful than the prophets of old. For instance, his cures of leprosy have close parallels with the stories of Moses and Elijah. Jesus feeds more people than Elisha. Moses divides the water for the jews to cross over, while Jesus can WALK over water. The story of turning water into wine is infact a Sidionian cult legend, but retold to show his superiority over Moses.

The resurrection of Laz and others ( or the waking of someone from a hysterical coma ) are rare in storytelling of the time despite all the wonderful claims being made. Though a man called Apollonius is credited with raising the dead in the same time period. The two views of Jesus life while he was alive is Jesus the son of God and Jesus the magician. Its just a shame that the evidence and reports for the latter claim were mostly destroyed after Christianity become the Religion of Rome. Hope that answers you question a little.

Excito

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What Stupid Things Were You Counseled For?

by minimus in

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friends

i've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".

the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .

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excito-are

For anyone that does not know me, I was joking!

I was at the back of the hall. :)

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Is this for real?

by AK - Jeff in

or photoshop?

did the wts actually print this shit?.

i think i will puke!.

excito-are

Pink and brown. what the hell was she thinking.

Excito

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Is the GB setting up to dump 1914?

by karter in

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friends

with the "generation change" and them changing it all the time it would make sence to dump it all togeather.. lets face it ,it can be disproved easly.. they dumped 1975 in a heart beat .. this would buy them all the time they wanted as they would just find another date to start the generation from ie: "the u.n year of peace and sercurty'',1986 i belive or whatever else they could think of.. they could sell it to the r&f as easly as they sold 1975,then dumped it when it did'nt happen .. anyone questioning them would be told they are running ahead of jehovah or lacking faith in his earthly org that feeds us food at the proper time .. what do you think?.

karter..

excito-are

Good comments.

The great war of 1914 has as much signifiance to people today as the Napoleonic War of 1803 -1814 did to the people of 1914. The very fact people no longer connect with the generation of 1914 shows how much the world has changed and moved on from that era. However the Watchtower has to keep the date as it is core due to its claims about their chronology. And this is where they are lucky or clever if you will, as the rest of its members in general are too busy giving wax lyrical to the Watchtower, to really notice the death of its claims of 1914.

Excito

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What Stupid Things Were You Counseled For?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".

the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .

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excito-are

Got counseled for mastabulation.

I guess, it ws fair enough. As I was giving a talk from the platform while doing it.

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Did You Ever Regard Jehovah As Your "Friend"?

by minimus in

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friends

i never felt that "friendship".

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excito-are

I expected Scotsman to answer that way. I imagine his Jehovah is very black and white, and he knows where he stands.

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Miracles and the wonderful protection Jehovah gives to his people in todays world

by excito-are in

thought i would tell you a story given by a member of the church i attend these days in scotland.

after a discussion about miracles in which i made my point that as being raised as someone who belived in god interacting with those in world with whom he truly loved, i had now come to an understanding that if god is the embodiment of omnipotence and goodness, then surely he would not play the role of a trickster who randomly throws miracles about like a trickster, causing chaos and a lack of understanding of the laws of nature due to this.

but it is the very fact of science and the laws of nature that show miracles to be uncommon, and that is is merely that man fails to understand that an certain event has yet to be explained through our knowledge of the world.

excito-are

Thought I would tell you a story given by a member of the church I attend these days in Scotland. after a discussion about miracles in which I made my point that as being raised as someone who belived in God interacting with those in world with whom he truly loved, I had now come to an understanding that if God is the embodiment of omnipotence and goodness, then surely he would not play the role of a trickster who randomly throws miracles about like a trickster, causing chaos and a lack of understanding of the laws of nature due to this. But it is the very fact of science and the laws of nature that show miracles to be uncommon, and that is is merely that man fails to understand that an certain event has yet to be explained through our knowledge of the world. God cannot act against nature anymore that he would act against himself. For any miracle to be credible, it would hace to convey a deeper understanding than could of been obtained without them. I find it disgusting that God would choose to help someone in the western world because of where there are born or who they are, and choose to ignore the millions of africans dying from famine and disease. This is not the God I could ever accept or have come to know.

From those comments, a woman responded that her baby was born blue ( was it a smurf? ) not breathing due to the umbilical cord wrapped around its neck. The doctors said they had done all they could and were sorry, and then the nurse shouted that the baby moved, and was breathing now. ( her church group had all prayed she and baby would be ok the day before ) A miracle. Wow.

No, not a miracle in my opinion, but just a misunderstanding of the babies situation in difficult circumstances. But I stayed silent as this woman has emotionally spilled her story and thought this destroyed my argument of miracles with everyone around her agreeing and me yet again looking like the man of no faith. The more stories I hear from all the faiths I have attended ( Catholics, Baptists, Church of Scotland, Muslims, Mormons, Seven day adventists, Gospel ) the more I find myself ailenated from the Christian ( Abrahamic )faith as the common people view it. No wonder people today of any intelligence seem to turn away from Christian views in general.

We all remember the stories of the witnesses pioneers who were saved from the axe weilding psycho at the door because of the angel behind them frightened the psycho. I find these stories really poor and just make God exclusive to a set of people without any understanding of the real world. What are your thoughts on how people should view this?

Excito

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History Channel Special on the Last Days

by SouthCentral in

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friends

i had surgery this weekend and the history channel had a great special on the last days.

they actually highlighted the generation teaching and the millerites.

benny hinn was on and he stated that 1948 was the key year and the generation lasted 100 years.

excito-are

I think you must of meant 1914 as a key year and not 1948. Unless this is something I have not read about before. The generation teaching teaching from the jw has of course changed so many time since Russell, just to return to what he originally said. I do find it strange that the very teaching Jesus gave on the generation given, is never really looked at by jw, though there is nothing new there. Jesus did say regarding the generation in Matt 24 : 33 that those who see the sign of the last days, would see the end, for example " when YOU see all these things, know that he is near at the doors" Notice he uses the pronoun You and not they for instance. He said YOU meaning those who witness these events see the end of course. If he meant overlapping generations of people, grandchildren, he would of used the word THEY in the context. But in using the pronoun YOU he is specifically referring to those who witness the sign of the last days witnesses his return. A simple understanding of grammer of their NWT of the bible, destroys the notion of overlapping generations as they now teach. Though bible tennis gets rather boring so I usually refrain from talking scripturesd these days.

From a historical point of view the last days has been promoted for the last 500 years by many religious groups, and the jw are just a another group to promote this teaching that has become laughable if not for the damage it has done.

Excito

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Satan, could be the good guy

by excito-are in

you know, there is always two sides to a story, sometimes more.

surely that must be the same with the bible stories.

who in all logic would only listen to one side and form all opinions from that.

excito-are

Shamus, STORY being the operative word. By looking at it this way, I make the bible sound even more ridiculous than it is.

And your right, i need to kick the lamp, but does alcohol mix with tylenol