Yes, the GB, and the JW is quickly reproved or DFed if they do not repent.
amama2six
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If a JW
by John Doe inis alone in the woods and has an independent thought, does anyone hear it?
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ARE WOMEN MORE ROMANTIC THAN MEN................AND WHY?
by Summer wine inpersonally, i think they are ............and from an early age but why?
from personal experience men need to feel loved, wanted and appreciated but have a bypass from romance.
is it just my husband or do you men feel pressured to be "be romantic".
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amama2six
I'm not very romantic. :embarrassed: Of course most of the way I feel about romantic gestures (flowers, candy, gifts, etc.) comes from the fact that with all the kids we have we can't afford to be spending money frivolously. My husband is in the Navy so we are almost always broke, barely even able to cover our bills, let alone be buying each other crap.
I'm fine with picked flowers or other simple (free) gestures, but I really don't require them. I get really angry, though, when a large chunk of money is spent on me...especially if it's something I don't even like or has no purpose. For instance, there was the Valentine's Day my husband spent 120 dollars on roses that the flower deliverer ended up leaving outside in the snow. They died, literally turned BROWN, by the next day. :mad: All I could think was how many things I NEEDED (clothes, things for the kids, etc.) that I had just watched DIE right before my eyes! Then there was the year a couple hundred got spent on a necklace for me despite that fact that other than my wedding ring (and tongue and naval piercings) I DO NOT WEAR JEWELRY!!! (Something I had told my husband on MANY occasions before.) This is especially so with necklaces as we have small children that would snap a necklace off my neck in two seconds flat. At the time I had been cooking with only a few crappy pans for quite awhile so I had him take the necklace back and get me some new cookware. :D I guess I am the woman that actually WOULD appreciate an appliance for her birthday/Christmas. hehehehe
Now I suppose this might make me sound like a nasty, ungrateful b*tch but when it comes to what my kids need and I need to keep this family running I WILL get a bit b*tchy. I think preferring cookware to jewelry shows that...as it was needed to make appropriate-sized meals for my family! I made a really special one for the hubby after he got it for me. ;) :D -
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what does being a parent mean to you? my definition
by burningbridges inbeing a parent means asking for the wing out of the kentucky fried chicken basket just because you want your family to get the best pieces.. .
being a parent means watching traffic through your side mirrors and your child through the rear view mirror of your car because your afraid she'll cough on her crackers or even just bob her head to the music and you don't want to miss it.
it means getting light headed blowing up a whole house full of balloons just because it will make her smile.. .
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amama2six
Everything said so far (apart from shunning, which only applies to MY poor excuse for parents) and...
Giving them all seconds of the food even though it means you'll get half what they do (even though you're twice their size).
Getting elbowed in the face and kicked in the knees all night by a bed full of kids because there's a thunderstorm raging outside.
Going on a shopping trip to FINALLY get some things YOU want/need, only to pass by some things you know THEY want/need...then putting your stuff back so you can afford to buy theirs instead.
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Is Pedophilia Really A Huge Problem With Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus injws say they are clean and pure and undefiled and not like the world but in reality there are those that do very evil things and they either have fallen through the cracks, have gotten disciplined or disfellowshipped.. we realize that just because a person says they are a christian, it doesn't mean they will always act like one.. regarding pedophiles, do you believe that jws have a huge problem involving an infestation of pedos?
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amama2six
How EFFing laughable is the "two witness" rule? Yeah, a pedophile is going to have two people watching him molest a kid. :rolleyes: Oh, and if there needs to be two witnesses to have any action taken against a pedophile in the religion, shouldn't there be a two witness rule to someone committing "fornication" before they can be DFed? Nobody saw ME doing it but I still got DFed based on people SAYING I did...
P.S. I DID commit the sin, by the way, but either way I would still have gotten DFed for it. haha Oh, and I encountered two pedophiles while growing up with the JWs. -
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Practising 'Goodness' - from the District Convention
by passwordprotected inas heard at the district convention.
9 part symposium on how to display the fruitages of the spirit.
goodness.
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amama2six
Yeah, it's commendable to upset a dying girl by not going to her party...I'm sure the Witness' "goodness" really showed her "friend" and parents the true essence of Jehovah's love. :rolleyes: And I'm with a previous poster...since when can you have a "dear friend" outside of the religion???
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New here, but not to being an Ex-JW...
by amama2six ini just thought i'd briefly introduce myself.
my name is april, i am a navy wife and mother of six children, will be 30 next month, and have been disfellowshipped for almost 12 years.
i was also reproved two years prior to that.
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amama2six
Once again, thank you to everyone for the warm welcome!!!
I just read a post on another thread from an individual who recently went back to the KH a couple of times for an "outsider's point of view"; as a way of getting closure. I know some of you might disagree but I think this may be something I will have to do eventually. Nobody here knows me (600 miles from the last KH I ever stepped in) so the whole DF thing wouldn't even have to come up. I was so bitter, angry, and defiant when I left that I missed out on the realization many of you have already reached...just how INSANE their teachings ARE. Well, I KNOW they are insane but it would bring a lot of closure for me, I think, to be able to go back as a true ADULT and "outsider looking in" to solidify that while I did a lot of stupid things in the process of leaving it was a result of the craziness I had been forced to live through all those years. I want to sit in a room full of these brainwashed individuals, listen to the crap being dished out that they're so willing to accept, and smile to myself knowing that I am FREE!
It's kind of funny, actually, how one of the JW's own analogies on child rearing explains perfectly what happened to me when I left. They likened it to holding a spring pressed between your fingers. Let it go too soon and it will fly out of control, hold it too tightly for too long and then let it go and the same will happen. Let it go slowly over time and it will remain controlled. Well...I was a spring held too tightly for way too long and by the time I shimmied my way from between the fingers of control I went CRAZY with new-found freedom. A lot of hurt came from that period of my life and I've blamed myself for so long.
I just realized something...I was raped at 18 and 21...both while in what you'd call a "bad situation". I never pressed charges (even though these were people I KNEW) because my immediate mind-set was it was my fault for putting myself in the situation to begin with (drinking and being alone with the opposite sex...oh, and I didn't scream either time because I was 1. Given the date-rape drug so I COULDN'T move, let alone scream (first time) and 2. Passed out drunk at my friend's house during which time his roommate thought he could go ahead and have at me). I did wake up enough to tell the second guy to get the EFF off me (which he did) but still...I was drunk and alone with the opposite sex so of COURSE it was my fault, right? That's EFFED UP!!!
I haven't tried much to heal all these years because I have children that need me more than I need to visit my own "pit of despair" so I can deal with all the crap. At least that's always been my excuse. Put others before yourself...that's the JW way! Why can't caring for others AND yourself at the same time be a viable option? -
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New here, but not to being an Ex-JW...
by amama2six ini just thought i'd briefly introduce myself.
my name is april, i am a navy wife and mother of six children, will be 30 next month, and have been disfellowshipped for almost 12 years.
i was also reproved two years prior to that.
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amama2six
Once again, thank you to everyone for the warm welcome!!!
I just read a post on another friend from an individual who recently went back to the KH a couple of times for an "outsider's point of view" as a way of getting closure. I know some of you might disagree but I think this may be something I will have to do eventually. Nobody here knows me (600 miles from the last KH I ever stepped in) so the whole "DF" thing wouldn't even have to come up. I was so bitter, angry, and defiant when I left that I missed out on the realization many of you have already reached...just how INSANE their teachings ARE. Well, I KNOW they are insane but it would bring a lot of closure for me, I think, to be able to go back as a true "adult" and "outsider looking in" to solidify that while I did a lot of stupid things in the process of leaving it was a result of the craziness I had been forced to live through all those years. I want to sit in a room full of these brainwashed individuals, listen to the crap being dished out that they're so willing to accept, and smile to myself knowing that I am FREE!
It's kind of funny, actually, how one of the JW's own analogies on child rearing explains perfectly what happened to me when I left. They likened it to holding a spring pressed between your fingers. Let it go too soon and it will fly out of control, hold it too tightly for too long and then let it go and the same will happen. Let it go slowly over time and it will remain controlled. Well...I was a spring held too tightly for way too long and by the time I shimmied my way from between the fingers of control I went CRAZY with new-found freedom. A lot of hurt came from that period of my life and I've blamed myself for so long.
I just realized something...I was raped at 18 and 21...both while in what you'd call a "bad situation". I never pressed charges (even though these were people I KNEW) because my immediate mind-set was it was my fault for putting myself in the situation to begin with (drinking and being alone with the opposite sex...oh, and I didn't scream either time because I was 1. Given the date-rape drug so I COULDN'T move, let alone scream (first time) and 2. Passed out drunk at my friend's house during which time his roommate thought he could go ahead and have at me). I did wake up enough to tell the second guy to get the EFF off me (which he did) but still...I was drunk and alone with the opposite sex so of COURSE it was my fault, right? That's EFFED UP!!!
I haven't tried much to heal all these years because I have children that need me more than I need to visit my own "pit of despair" so I can deal with all the crap. At least that's always been my excuse. Put others before yourself...that's the JW way! Why can't caring for others AND yourself at the same time be a viable option? -
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What was the most laughable JW teaching??
by chuckyy inhi all.
in your opinion, what was the silliest , most laughable watchtower teaching/doctrine, since its beginning until now???.
chukyy.
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amama2six
Did anyone else look at the whole "eternal life on a Paradise earth" scenario and think...that doesn't really sound like much fun! I mean
yeah, you get to live forever peacefully with a bunch of people and animals. But then there's the things that don't seem to add up quite
right. Say you're married in this life, then you die but your spouse lives on to marry another. The whole Paradise thing happens while
they're both still alive, and your happy azz comes back from the dead to find your mate married to some other person. Death released them
from the marriage, sure, but are you REALLY going to be thrilled with that scenario? Then there's the whole sex and babies issue.
Eventually the earth is going to fill up and there will be no more room for babies, so does that mean no more children...EVER? My kids
certainly drive me nuts from time to time, but I'm quite certain I wouldn't care to live in a society with no little munchkins running
around anymore for all eternity. After the need for children is no more, does that mean sex disappears too? And what if all the good ones
eventually get "taken" marriage-wise and you get stuck with some weirdo for eternity? Or is Jehovah supposed to fix them, not let them in,
or somehow make you completely happy with the fact that you will spend your eternity alone? Someone actually suggested to me one time (I
think it was my father) that Jehovah may make other planets inhabitable when the earth becomes "filled". Ummmm...I thought it was "in
Paradise ON EARTH". Somehow the "eternal sleep" sounds a lot better than all of that crap, but maybe it's just me. :shrug: -
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What are your dreams?
by Renegade inone day, i was with my grandma and she asked me what my dreams (for the future) were.. i told her i'd like to be in band because i love listening to, and making music.
plus, it'd be great if i could earn some good money with it.. she some how got the nerve to say,.
"no, i mean a realistic dream.".
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amama2six
To be a secretary!
Oh wait, that was my "we're not sending you to college" JW parents' dream for me...
Ummmm...to never expose my children to the insanity of the JW Cult? Yeah, that's a good dream. :D -
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New here, but not to being an Ex-JW...
by amama2six ini just thought i'd briefly introduce myself.
my name is april, i am a navy wife and mother of six children, will be 30 next month, and have been disfellowshipped for almost 12 years.
i was also reproved two years prior to that.
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amama2six
Yay! I got my ex-Elder friend to join!!! Now if I can just find him... :p