hello all, happy sunday to you!!.
just read quandrys post about the 2007 annual meeting notes.
this comment made during that meeting just got under my skin, so i decided to start a thread to show the dictionarys definition of both of the words.
They have created a distinction without a difference.
They want the authority of actually being INSPIRED,
Without the accountability of acutally being INSPIRED.
The Bible they claim to hold so dear...offers NO EXAMPLES of this so called 'Spirit-direction'.
Either an individual is INSPIRED, or he is not. There's no 'in-between'.
seems to me that the primordial religion, if it could be called that, is a form of paganism that has pantheism, animism and shamanism.
also, it may contain sun worship.
in this 'religion', they felt a connection w the land, had respect for nature and the animals.
Seems to me that the primordial religion, if it could be called that, is a form of paganism that has pantheism, animism and shamanism. Also, it may contain sun worship.
In this 'religion', they felt a connection w the land, had respect for nature and the animals. They often explained or apologised to the animals that they had to kill for food. This form was practiced around the globe, on all continents and islands. Is this the true religion? Or, does it make more sense that later, more developed, what could be called proper religions are more correct? Which form is more compatible w science?
Good summary by Satanus.
I would offer that the origional religion of humanity had prevailing themes of recognition of the duality of the universe. Man/Female, Yin/Yang, Hot/Cold, Light/Dark.
What these ancient people knew, was that achieving balance between these two dualities resulted in LIFE. A good thing!!
This is what they worshiped...LIFE.
i'm not an inspired prophet - nevertheless, let me tell you what the future will be for ordinary, middle.
class people in the united states:.
inflation is going to accelerate and making a living for families is only going to get more difficult.. the real standard of living in the us may fall.
I agree with everything that's been said here. But it's hard to imagine anything other than an directly proportional relationship beween college eduation and corresponding earning power, and money available to donate to the WT.
Even the people that run the Tower have to know this. By championing the briefest (and least) possible eduaction for JWs, the WT is effectively shooting itself in the foot.
Unless of course, they have performed a cost-benefit analysis, and determined that it's better to have broke JWs who can't reason, rather than better-off JWs who might reason and leave.
i wanted to research more on cults and the mind control techniques they use.
if i had any doubts (which i haven't) that the wt uses these highly sophicated techniques, then i certainly wouldn't now!!!!!!.
as we have had a thread asking why people don't leave the wt when they know that it has major flaws, i thought it would be beneficial to explore how powerful these methods of control are.
To be honest, the WT imprisons no adult person, without that person's explicit consent.
I'd imagine Spider-Man wins the contest.
we see alot of topics on the board about the end of the wbt$..i don`t think that will happen in our lifetime........so..lets change our focus..kingdom halls are getting fewer and fewer jw`s in them..congregations are being dissolved and kingdom halls are sold off..many jw`s are very unhappy and we see alot of them on this board.....the wbt$ is a billion dollar organization,they will survive for along time to come..........how about the jehovah`s witness`s?.......with fewer and fewer members..information about the wbt$ on the internet..and..some very depressed jehovah`s witness`s looking for a way out of the cult they are in.....will the "jehovah`s witness`s" survive?...outlaw
Not to be a hanger-on who bothers the crap out of people, but...
Look for a few to be dispensed with in the next couple years.
I'm very curious as to what Gary meant by this. If you find a moment to spell it out for me, sir, I'd be grateful.
i'm just wondering if any of you are sk fans, i just started to read the dark tower books, i began with the second book "the drawing of the three" and have not read the first one, so far so good.
just wondering how many of you are sk fans.. lola.
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I've always thought that 'Salem's Lot was one of the absolutely BEST contemporary vampire/horror stories. Decent movie - but great book!!
is there anyone, when you see they have posted, that you always check to see what they have to say?
i always check blondie, bebu, alanf, farkel, onacruse, aguest (and probably others).
bc what they say has some gravity, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some insight.
I usually look first for Farkel, AlanF, Amazing, and Metatron...
And I sure do miss Francois
big slam on watchtower good experience to use for child custody court to refute that jw kids are 'normal'.
for his entire youth into his early adulthood, quarry was a member of the jehovah's witnesses, growing up in the christian denomination where life focused on school, bible study and home chores.
there was no time for socializing or doing most things that most american teenagers do.
Our brotherhood does NOT teach that
You forget who you're talking to....Your 'brotherhood', indeed, taught us that. We were there, heard it ourselves....
Will you defend God by using lies?
it seems over the years, the organization has done 360's on several topics.
do you think they will ever go mainstream with their beliefs.
for example, college is good, blood is a conscience decision (without punishment), ect....... .
Some good comments here....
I see it this way: if they do, they lose. If they don't, they lose. Perhaps more slowly and painfully, but with the same result.
As has been said: this cult was nothing more than an apocalypse expectation group, was not supposed to be around this long, and has resorted to dysfunction in order to sustain itself.
They seem to be clamping down, becoming more totalitarian, but this is ultimately shortsighted as modern JWs do what they want when out of sight of church elders and 'Goody-Goodies'. So who remains when it becomes even more oppressive? Just the hardcore believers, and just how much money do these people have to keep things running for the Tower?
This harsh fact of dimished cashflow might serve as impetus for more moderate (liberal) voices in the leadership to be seriously heard. As much as this cult prides themselves on being something special, their empire runs on DOLLARS, like everything else. Threaten those DOLLARS, and watch this nasty cult morph into something none of us could recognize, because their survival demands it.
