Awesome OP. I had the same experiences growing up. All I wanted to do was the one things my duped parents would never allow...
I wanted to fit in and be normal
Such a trifling matter, and perhaps it is only so valuable because it had been denied.
Sometimes I consider the notion that my kids will simple never know how awful my JW childhood was...because to truly know is to live it, and have it as your own. I am content to have them be happy and NOT EVER KNOW.
So happy that your kids and mine will never have to suffer the idiotic delusions that we did. In this way, we suffocate this miserable cult one family at a time.
Also, let's be frank about this. When you're taught that everyone at school is bird food, and that your time there is a necessary evil, not to be embraced, but to be fleed from ASAP, then...perhaps an otherwise smart kid is DIS-incentivized from really trying; pouring effort into it; maximizing the potential benefits from being there....
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JWs made me hate school
by StephaneLaliberte inyesterday, i had an epiphany.
i realized that the jw religion made my experience in school awful and i hated school because of this.. yesterday, my kids had an activity where the whole school was out at the park, playing baseball, soccer, other pic-nic games and even swimming pools.
during the day, i had conversations with the teachers and saw the kids out, playing having fun.
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I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot
by Brokeback Watchtower inlook at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.
these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?
i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..
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'Unless they reform. Things will only get worse. They are well aware of the teachings and policies that are damaging the organisation. They need to make the needed changes and do this quickly before they sink deeper into the myre!'
Good comment! Since this is the case, I suspect that how they handle this paradigm will inform us as to what they truly think about themselves.
If they hold fast to the damaging teaching and policies, I think it suggests they they are victims of their own delusions that they peddle to others. I think it means that they really believe they are correct in these matters and must not waver because YHVH is going to bail them out in return for their loyalty.
If they do blink and change course, it's a tacit admission that YHVH may not, in fact, come to their rescue, and they need to do what they must, to ensure the viability of the ORG. In this case, perhaps the more-practical minded and less-fanatical would be calling the shots. But this could be a slippery slope, and if some policies and teachings can be altered, why not some others? In this way, the WT ORG maintains its survivabiliy by morphing into another thing altogether - slightly weirder mainstream American Protestantism.
Either way, we know (and I suspect they know, too) that the center cannot hold, and they cannot persist being how, and what, they are. -
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I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot
by Brokeback Watchtower inlook at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.
these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?
i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..
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Agree with no apologies and berrygerry the GB are talking heads.
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I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot
by Brokeback Watchtower inlook at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.
these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?
i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..
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I'm sure at WT corporate meetings the shit is hitting the fan. I see the GB removed from office as not fit maybe even a removal of golden parachute benefits and dismissal from office and residence to save the corporation from total bankruptcy.
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John Caister; A Personal Story
by mrquik ini met john when i was nine.
my mother had me enroll in the ministry school at the webster, ny hall back in 1958.
"hall" was an upstairs apartment gutted to make a gathering place.
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I remember him. I knew him much later in his life - never knew his first wife, but I did know the second.
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JW Parents in bad shape with no retirement.
by blownaway inmy wife's parents are in very bad shape.
they are both 2nd gen jws.
my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.
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I'm not sure what the talk was trying to accomplish.
What the ORG calls a 'love of money' and 'materialism', other normal people call 'concern over basic needs and amenities', and 'modest financial protection for their family'.
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How Blood Saved Evelyn's Life
by Lee Elder inat the 1988 divine justice district convention of jw’s.
i had stopped going to the meetings for six months.
before that i was fading, but it wasn’t deliberate.
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Great story. I've often wondered how many JWs really, truly believe the blood doctrine and would refuse no matter what...
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"Demons" Living In My Brothers Gym Equipment
by pale.emperor inspoke to my younger brother dan yesterday (he da'd about 6 months ago).
he was telling me that he got a visit from our older brother the day before.
our older brother was raised a jw but never committed, lives a full-on "worldly" life - smokes, binge drinks, hangs out with non-jws, but he's been studying for about 6 years would you believe?.
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Meet these dumb ideas on their own terms, in their own court...
Where in the Bible does it talk about demons inhabiting inanimate objects?
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Even elders don’t know their beliefs
by Addison0998 ini had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.
first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.
of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.
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Yes, it's often this way. One eventually gets the idea that the beliefs don't really even matter.
If the WT Society directed that JWs believe the moon is made of candy, there we go...it's about adherence to the authority. Not any specific idea or belief.
Anyway, it may just be a valuable thing that you can talk to your father - about anything at all, never mind religion. If you place your expectations in the outcome of these conversations, you may just be setting yourself up for frustration.
I say this as someone working on letting go of these expectations. Dragging these along in life can make you weary. -
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Posters You Miss
by minimus inanyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.
i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.
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