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  I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. scandals

  look at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.

  these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?

  i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..

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  'Unless they reform. Things will only get worse. They are well aware of the teachings and policies that are damaging the organisation. They need to make the needed changes and do this quickly before they sink deeper into the myre!'
  
  Good comment! Since this is the case, I suspect that how they handle this paradigm will inform us as to what they truly think about themselves.
  
  If they hold fast to the damaging teaching and policies, I think it suggests they they are victims of their own delusions that they peddle to others. I think it means that they really believe they are correct in these matters and must not waver because YHVH is going to bail them out in return for their loyalty.
  
  If they do blink and change course, it's a tacit admission that YHVH may not, in fact, come to their rescue, and they need to do what they must, to ensure the viability of the ORG. In this case, perhaps the more-practical minded and less-fanatical would be calling the shots. But this could be a slippery slope, and if some policies and teachings can be altered, why not some others? In this way, the WT ORG maintains its survivabiliy by morphing into another thing altogether - slightly weirder mainstream American Protestantism.
  
  Either way, we know (and I suspect they know, too) that the center cannot hold, and they cannot persist being how, and what, they are.
  
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  I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  look at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.

  these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?

  i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..

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  Agree with no apologies and berrygerry the GB are talking heads.
  
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  I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  look at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.

  these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?

  i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..

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  I'm sure at WT corporate meetings the shit is hitting the fan. I see the GB removed from office as not fit maybe even a removal of golden parachute benefits and dismissal from office and residence to save the corporation from total bankruptcy.
  
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  John Caister; A Personal Story

  by mrquik in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i met john when i was nine.

  my mother had me enroll in the ministry school at the webster, ny hall back in 1958.

  "hall" was an upstairs apartment gutted to make a gathering place.

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  I remember him. I knew him much later in his life - never knew his first wife, but I did know the second.
  
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  JW Parents in bad shape with no retirement.

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife's parents are in very bad shape.

  they are both 2nd gen jws.

  my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.

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  I'm not sure what the talk was trying to accomplish.
  

  What the ORG calls a 'love of money' and 'materialism', other normal people call 'concern over basic needs and amenities', and 'modest financial protection for their family'.
  
  This has been expressed before, but I can't get over the irony of building a religion dependent on folks who have the least to give.
  
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  How Blood Saved Evelyn's Life

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  at the 1988 divine justice district convention of jw’s.

  i had stopped going to the meetings for six months.

  before that i was fading, but it wasn’t deliberate.

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  Great story. I've often wondered how many JWs really, truly believe the blood doctrine and would refuse no matter what...
  
  ...and how many would willingly consent to a life-saving transfusion if it could be kept secret....
  
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  "Demons" Living In My Brothers Gym Equipment

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  spoke to my younger brother dan yesterday (he da'd about 6 months ago).

  he was telling me that he got a visit from our older brother the day before.

  our older brother was raised a jw but never committed, lives a full-on "worldly" life - smokes, binge drinks, hangs out with non-jws, but he's been studying for about 6 years would you believe?.

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  Meet these dumb ideas on their own terms, in their own court...
  
  Where in the Bible does it talk about demons inhabiting inanimate objects?
  
  This is just more extra-Biblical crap that the JWs swear they don't engage in...
  
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  Even elders don’t know their beliefs

  by Addison0998 in

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  2. beliefs

  i had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.

  first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.

  of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.

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  Yes, it's often this way. One eventually gets the idea that the beliefs don't really even matter.
  
  If the WT Society directed that JWs believe the moon is made of candy, there we go...it's about adherence to the authority. Not any specific idea or belief.
  
  Anyway, it may just be a valuable thing that you can talk to your father - about anything at all, never mind religion. If you place your expectations in the outcome of these conversations, you may just be setting yourself up for frustration.
  
  I say this as someone working on letting go of these expectations. Dragging these along in life can make you weary.
  
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  Posters You Miss

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.

  i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.

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  Maximus
  
  Metatron
  
  Farkel
  
  et al.
  
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  where to find help

  by dogisgod in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was having a conversation with another ex jw about difficulties when you have been a born-in and indoctrinated from birth.

  it just is so disheartening that if and when you do wake up and leave that all that crap is still in your brain.

  you just can't unplug.

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  I found it tremendously helpful to spend time talking to a professional therapist who was familiar with these specific circumstances and issues. He was able to show me the faulty 'programming' I was operating with and provided some tools for working past the JW conditioned nonsense.
  
  I was a born-in, and left at age 18. I thought that simply separating myself from the religion would be enough to render me 'ok', but it wasn't. A decade later I was still tripping over all the learned dysfunction from my quite painful childhood.
  
  If you're needing some help here, but aren't in a position to see a therapist, at least do some reading and explore the concepts of cognitive distortions and automatic thinking. Learn what's at work in your JW-addled brain that's making you so frustrated. Know what you're up against. Then you can start to make things better.
  
  As difficult as this is, this is well-traveled territory. You can learn a lot from others who have tread this path...