Posts by cameo-d

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Do 'general' masons, understand what their symbology means?

by EndofMysteries in

among them and their associates, almost all are based on faces of cherubs, serpent as the god of healing, many things from solomon's temple.

i know those who continue to make them and use them, must have an idea of what they represent and the reason for them.

i don't know, if the general members have any clue or if they are just in it for their own reasons, the association, benefits, to help others, or to advance their life/career, etc.

cameo-d

EoM,

No I am not a Mason. I find the jewelry too gaudy for my taste.

For some reason, this image will not come through. Check this out:

www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/treasure/images/truman_portrait_masonic_regalia.jpg

Take a look at the "necklace". And note the magicians hat covering the left hand.

Moshe says it's "an overgrown men's club." That may be how it looks if you are low man on the totem pole and are not aware of the higher origins. Just to prove it's not just for men.....

Take a look at that Medallion! Can you see the HORSEMAN?

If you would like a closer look, you can do an image search for the Stewart Jewels. That's what she is wearing.

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Do 'general' masons, understand what their symbology means?

by EndofMysteries in

among them and their associates, almost all are based on faces of cherubs, serpent as the god of healing, many things from solomon's temple.

i know those who continue to make them and use them, must have an idea of what they represent and the reason for them.

i don't know, if the general members have any clue or if they are just in it for their own reasons, the association, benefits, to help others, or to advance their life/career, etc.

cameo-d

Anybody want to go for the meaning of the Compass?

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VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!!

by brotherdan in

jw
friends

so i was talking to one of my "apologist" friends, and he just got back from a mormon outreach mission in utah.

he was able to help a 17 year old mormon girl to begin to see the truth and was really excited about it.

he goes to these temple conventions and temple openings all the time to preach jesus to them.. so he was interested in doing that at a jw convention.

cameo-d

First of all, your friend proposes to have "the truth"?

And second of all, why would you request something "sly" instead of straight up and forthright? Isn't that what Truth is about? Why would you resort to the enemies tactics of being deceptive?

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The Promised Land

by cameo-d in

why do most people not get the real gist of the story?.

they never got to the promised land.. it was always just a carrot dangling on a stick.. wasn't moses supposed to be god's favorite?

didn't moses waste 40 years of his life and everyone else's stomping around in a desert on a speculation?

cameo-d

Dear Frigginconfused,

It's obvious that you are. I can see you want to break free but you still have some WT fleas on you.

Moses did not get the ten commandments from God. He got them from his father-in-law Jethro. It was Jethro who inspired the Jewish system of rabbis and courts that continues to this day. It was Jethro who taught Moses how to organize a political hierarchy and to delegate responsibilities, thus the decan system. The Torah views Jethro as so important that the portion containingthe ten commandments is called Parashat Yitro.

Jethro, not god, was Moses's mentor.

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Does God Have A Visible Organization Today?

by wannabe in

does god have a visible organization today?.

well, whether we agree with them or not, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses certainly believes he does have, and they tell us, that the watchtower bible and tract society is that visible organization.

as we see, they also tell us that their watchtower society is the channel or instrument through which the spiritual food is delivered to other members of the household.. 1939 "we acknowledge as the visible organization of jehovah on earth the watchtower bible & tract society, and recognize the society as the channel or instrument through which jehovah and christ jesus give instruction and meat in due season to the household of faith.

cameo-d

I am speaking of the powers that can BE SEEN, Sweeney.

Very soon there will be 144,000 that come forward. They will not be individuals. They will be Committees, or associations. This will be the new power structure. The Powers will be vested in these committees to direct the elements of the world. All nations will possess the same institutions. It is a global network and the foundations have been laid.

The ancient ecclestical power is about to be replaced. It will be science based rather than religion based. But the dark secret is that the new god will be the same as the old god. It will be another deceptive maneuver. The same ones will still be behind it all and at the top of the food chain.

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Does God Have A Visible Organization Today?

by wannabe in

does god have a visible organization today?.

well, whether we agree with them or not, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses certainly believes he does have, and they tell us, that the watchtower bible and tract society is that visible organization.

as we see, they also tell us that their watchtower society is the channel or instrument through which the spiritual food is delivered to other members of the household.. 1939 "we acknowledge as the visible organization of jehovah on earth the watchtower bible & tract society, and recognize the society as the channel or instrument through which jehovah and christ jesus give instruction and meat in due season to the household of faith.

cameo-d

BrotherDan, What will you think when a group of 144,000 step up and claim to represent Jesus? The Jesus Class.

Are you expecting the "real" Jesus to make an appearance? Or will you see that "Jesus" is being used as a tool for the reorganization of the Power Grip?

TPTB know that their time is short; too many people have seen behind the curtain. They have known for several centuries that eventually they would be found out and the "jesus" story was incorporated to facilitate the transition of power when the time arrived.

I do believe Jesus was a real person, just like you and me. When he "rent the veil" in the Temple, this means he exposed the power structure for the deceit, greed, and control for what it was. He laid bare the workings of these secret societies. "Rent the veil"...he pulled back the curtain to show who the real Wizard of Oz was. There was a strong binding force and a network that did the bidding of the hierarchy.

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Does God Have A Visible Organization Today?

by wannabe in

does god have a visible organization today?.

well, whether we agree with them or not, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses certainly believes he does have, and they tell us, that the watchtower bible and tract society is that visible organization.

as we see, they also tell us that their watchtower society is the channel or instrument through which the spiritual food is delivered to other members of the household.. 1939 "we acknowledge as the visible organization of jehovah on earth the watchtower bible & tract society, and recognize the society as the channel or instrument through which jehovah and christ jesus give instruction and meat in due season to the household of faith.

cameo-d

God is at the top of the heap. Follow the money.

There is an organization that keeps things running and keeps everyone in check.

Even the Queen answers to the Crown Temple.

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Does God Have A Visible Organization Today?

by wannabe in

does god have a visible organization today?.

well, whether we agree with them or not, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses certainly believes he does have, and they tell us, that the watchtower bible and tract society is that visible organization.

as we see, they also tell us that their watchtower society is the channel or instrument through which the spiritual food is delivered to other members of the household.. 1939 "we acknowledge as the visible organization of jehovah on earth the watchtower bible & tract society, and recognize the society as the channel or instrument through which jehovah and christ jesus give instruction and meat in due season to the household of faith.

cameo-d

GOD=Gold, Oil, Drugs

Yes, there is a visible organization. It is represented by the Pyramid. And yes, the WT is part of it (even though 'real estate' is not in the acronym).

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The Promised Land

by cameo-d in

why do most people not get the real gist of the story?.

they never got to the promised land.. it was always just a carrot dangling on a stick.. wasn't moses supposed to be god's favorite?

didn't moses waste 40 years of his life and everyone else's stomping around in a desert on a speculation?

cameo-d

So....a lifetime of service, one inconsequential mistake....and you lose Paradise? Forty years of neglecting family to go knock on doors and attend meetings....one day you don't wear a tie and it's all over for you? Sounds like someone is looking really hard for a nitpickin excuse to take back a promise they never intended to keep.

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Knowledge of Good and Evil

by cameo-d in

in 1 kings 3:9, solomon asks for wisdom to discern between good and evil.

in verse 10 we are told this request was pleasing to god that solomon had asked for this instead of riches.. wth?

adam and eve got kicked out of the garden for wanting that same knowledge!.

cameo-d

WTWizard, it almost sounds like you are going to the dark side there. Cheers for the devil and all that. I am going to stray off topic to respond to this.

First, it seems odd that religions teach that god is a single entity and that satan is a single entity. It's as though they are actual persons rather than "powers and principalities".

In Genesis, when Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of knowledge, it was a group of 'people' referenced as 'god' (and friends) who remarked "They have become like us knowing good and evil."

How can we relate to this story in our day? It is very important that we understand the concept at this time.

God and friends were those who exercised power over the humans. We have a cabal even today who call the shots on wars and treaties. Let's refer to god and his co-horts as TPTB (The Powers That Be).

So in this story, Adam and Eve have decided to question the authority of TPTB. They have sought knowledge of what is really going on with this garden and why they are here. They want to know what's behind the curtain. They have a lot of unanswered questions. They are told to just obey and do as they are told and enjoy the animals and the garden. But this garden is walled off. It is isolated. They want to know what lies beyond. Why are they being kept in this place. Why must they do everything TPTB tells them to do.

When the couple do seek knowledge, they become "like their masters" in that they now know 'good and evil'. Why would this be a "bad thing"? When you know what the masters are up to then they have no power over you. No power; no control. In seeking knowledge, Adam and Eve were no longer submissive and obedient to the authorities that governed them. They became independent agents. As god and his cronies said, "they have become like us" meaning they know what we know; they know what we are doing. As such, the couple were now a threat to TPTB. When the controllers no longer had anyone to control and their experiments had gone awry, the couple had to be banished from that existence so as not to contaminate others. (Yes, there were probably others in the "garden")

Adam and Eve were disfellowshipped from the hall because they asked too many questions. They began to see the lies and the motives. They were being used for the personal gain of TPTB. And once they began to open their eyes, they were both a threat to TPTB and a threat of contamination to the others who were isolated in the womb of the cult.