exodus 38. in the first verse the altar is described as "five cubits in length and breadth".... "it was foursquare".
in verse 4 "he made for the altar a brasen grate of network under the compass thereof".
seems to describe a compass and square, does it not?
notverylikely, If you would spend as much time contemplating the metaphors and symbolism as you do trying to pick something out to be contensious about, you might get a glimmer of the hidden messages here.
As it is, your focus is a moot point and has nothing at all to do with the meaning and message within the content here.
hi, guys.
wanna ask a stupid question--have u ever break up with anybody else?
now i'm confused at the relationship with my bf.
cloudy2101: Say, the other day, he buy a similar jacket like this Oakley Women's Gretchen Bleiler Lighter Fare Jacket for me by himself. Its very urgly for me, I think. I won't wear it anyway. But I have to disguse my real emotion.
Cloudy,
You are an ingrate. You must be a spoiled brat. Do you know how many people in China are going naked and cold? If you don't like the coat, send it to them.
Cloudy2010: Should I break up with him or not? How should I do?
Since you don't like the stuff your BF picks for you, next time he asks you out to dinner or movies, why don't you just tell him you rather have the money instead?
this topic was inspired by another recent thread started by ak jeff.
the excerpt below is from the book "people of the lie", by the late m. scott peck, who also authored the best-seller "the road less traveled.
" "people of the lie" is about the nature of evil, and dashed all my previously held notions about what evil was.. you would do yourself a favor if your attention span is long enough to take the time to read this, because as you do, i want you to relate what is being said directly to the leaders of the watchtower society, past and present.
Farkel, Thanks for the information. This sounds like a beneficial read.
One of the greatest evils is the "sin of omission". It is a sly and crafty way they will justify that they "did not lie". They reason that the fault is yours because you didn't ask. Or maybe didn't ask the 'right' questions, or didn't ask them exactly the right way. And even if you had, they would have used what they justify as 'diplomacy' aka 'theocratic warfare' and you would have never gotton a straight answer anyway. For example, how much do most people really know about the darkside of WT/JWism before they take the bait and the plunge? It's the application of the velvet hammer.
There are many silent adhesion contracts that people are not aware of and do not see that they are truly pwned. How many folks realize that the baptism is a legal contract to a sovereign religious governance and that the public ritual is an initiation? The questions and answers qualify as a pledge of allegiance and loyalty to the chosen religious institution. Because your chosen religion is considered a sovereign body...this is why no other sovereign (such as political governments) will interfere with any injustices within the ranks of another sovereign.
How many realize that through the baptism and constant renewal of your pledge through signature----like time cards---you have transferred your power of authority to this sovereign power?
The evil ones perpetuating this will never take responsibility for misleading you. By their terms, it's your own fault for not taking responsibility to find out what you were really getting yourself into. And for those who do know and continue to stay in....well, again, they reason it is by your own choice and that you have the free will to walk out at any time. Bottom line, evil justifies itself. It's not their fault; the fault lies with YOU.
i coudn't help but notice in a recent watchtower ( february i think it was).
jesus was pointing the way to some one with two fingers ,not to somebody who had two fingers but pointing the way with two fingers.
just one finger might have give the wrong impression.. the point is jesus had what can only be described as this fabulous head of hair .i mean it was like wow because your worth it !
When Jesus met Elvis....he was rather put off by the sideburns
But he really dug the outfits! They decided to do a "Prince and the Pauper" switch for a day.
So Jesus sang....and Elvis could do no wrong!
exodus 38. in the first verse the altar is described as "five cubits in length and breadth".... "it was foursquare".
in verse 4 "he made for the altar a brasen grate of network under the compass thereof".
seems to describe a compass and square, does it not?
notverylikely: "cameo, a square isn't foursquare. It has a single 90 degree angle."
four·square (fôr
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adj. 1. Having four equal sides and four right angles; square. 2. Marked by firm, unwavering conviction or expression; forthright: a foursquare refusal to yield. adv. In a forthright manner; squarely. You will notice that much of this terminology is the language of legalese. A word may have a common meaning, but the legal meaning may be something totally different. Here's another little tidbit that puts the Church into Maritime and Admiralty.
FMI uses a simple model to describe the process of becoming a fully functioning National Church. Regardless of country, culture, geography or history, the Wheel (as it became to be known) has proven to be an accurate description of the phases in the growth from the initial church plant in a country to when that country sends it own International Missionaries.
The Wheel identifies the most obvious landmarks that any National Church will pass on its way to maturity. That is why the Wheel is like a set of directions “…after you pass the big tree, you’ll come to a dirt path that leads to…” Like a compass, the Wheel enables leaders to find their way and focus their attention on normal progress from one stage to another. Part of the confusion came from the need for legal registration in countries. In order to register, it was necessary to have an identified leader. Consequently, the Foursquare Church in several European countries consists of a single congregation, legally recognized by the government as a national organization. http://ctw.coastlands.org/read/articles/strategic-definitions-and-diagnostics-national-church-development/ Could this be the Wheel of the goddess Fortuna? Does it also represent the wheel of a ship? Why do they have steering committees? All of these things are written in a maritime language. We are dealing with pirates.
joshua said to all the people, "this stone has heard everything the lord said to us.
it will be a witness to testify against you if you go back on your word to god.
" (joshua 24:27 nlt).
Why does the Pope have a replica of this black stone? Look at the background. Beneath the beehive hat and the crossed keys....there is a black stone that looks too much like the stone of Islam to be "coincidental".
i coudn't help but notice in a recent watchtower ( february i think it was).
jesus was pointing the way to some one with two fingers ,not to somebody who had two fingers but pointing the way with two fingers.
just one finger might have give the wrong impression.. the point is jesus had what can only be described as this fabulous head of hair .i mean it was like wow because your worth it !
Sometimes you just have a bad hair day and can't help it...what with static electricity and all. Sometimes you just have to go incognito on days like that and hope no body knows it's really you behind the mask.
exodus 38. in the first verse the altar is described as "five cubits in length and breadth".... "it was foursquare".
in verse 4 "he made for the altar a brasen grate of network under the compass thereof".
seems to describe a compass and square, does it not?
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arimathewdavies: "how many of you would pay $ 25 to the clerk of courts to make yourself registered jehovah worshiper be water baptised,"
So far that's sounds just as twisted and legalistic as what the WT has come up with. Not much difference.
And really, WT is just as legalistic. "Water" baptism takes you into their specific Admiralty jurisdiction.
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notverylikely: No, no this is not a great plan. If they ask you to leave and you don't back down, you are criminally trespassing at that point. The action of not respecting their wishes if they don't want to talk to you won't make them love you.
I am glad you brought this up. Perhaps if we are prepared for any possible scenerio, people will feel more confident in participating.
Suppose you are at the Hall and you are confronted by an elder. What a great opportunity to let him make an ass of himself! Just make sure there are lots of people around if you should be confronted. And DO NOT ARGUE. The way that Clint reasoned with scripture and made them hang themselves was a very good example. Maybe it will plant some seeds among the congregation to see someone unjustly persecuted for having done nothing to bring it on themselves other than to come in and sit down with family or friends in a public setting.
A parent will scold a child and it is normal...but let an outsider (non-blood) scold the child and the parent will become defensive of their child. It could very well back fire in their faces if elders say anything to you.
If you think that your family or friends will treat you rudely, then just make it a very short visit and don't go inside even if invited, and don't go empty-handed. Maybe drop by and give a jar of pickles that you made yourself. Or a nice plant. Or just some little token that shows you were thinking of them. Chat for 5 minutes---just a short and sweet drop by. No reciprocation expected.
Let the chips fall where they may.
