Outlaw...if they offer you a joy ride...please don't go.
You might miss Paradise.
good evening jwn!!...
as most of you know i live in a forest,in the mountains..at night there is very little light pollution... so the sky is one big theatre screen... i see shooting stars,northern lights,satellites,planes on a destination..it`s all very beautiful... tonight was different... .
tonight there was something in the sky that defied anything i`ve ever seen... it had multiple aircraft lights but not like regular airplane lights..it wasn`t a helicopter... it could go straight up or down... move in one direction then head in another..it could do all kinds of weird stuff... sometimes it just hovered..then start doing all these weird maneuvers... regular aircraft is going somewhere,it`s headed in a direction..not this thing... i watched a regular airplane pass it... .
Outlaw...if they offer you a joy ride...please don't go.
You might miss Paradise.
do you believe it is some government plot?
do you think et's are scouting us out...and for what reason?.
do you think abduction hysteria will be the next wave of weird news to set people on the edge of their seats?.
misocup, I have thought about that same scripture, too, about "signs in the heaven". Are we being played once again? In looking further into this, I never realized there were so many satellites surrounding us. Maybe the "flying saucers" are holographic images being displayed from some of these satellites in the sky.
i believe i have completely freed myself from any borg influence yet i am drawn to this board.
like many of you ,i lost my wife and family, but i don't believe i can do anything about that, and if i could, i doubt that it would be a kindness on my part to do so.
they have so much invested.
Luo bou to: " I think its because, although I have never met any of you, I can relate to, and understand you ."
Yes, people who have had the yoke of WT upon them have a bond of understanding. And it's good to have one another to talk to when the nightmares creep back in or the WT influences sometimes rears its ugly head again in some way.
Friends are like buoys in a churning sea. No one needs the weight of an anchor, but a buoy to cling to and rest for awhile is nice.
One of my interests here is pursuing topics and questions that have not been sufficiently answered by man's religions. I figure that many JWs were sincere in wanting to seek the truth before they got seduced into WT promises that they had special knowledge. And if they were sincere in wanting to know truth, that many would still be diligent in seeking it....once they can get past the lies.
good evening jwn!!...
as most of you know i live in a forest,in the mountains..at night there is very little light pollution... so the sky is one big theatre screen... i see shooting stars,northern lights,satellites,planes on a destination..it`s all very beautiful... tonight was different... .
tonight there was something in the sky that defied anything i`ve ever seen... it had multiple aircraft lights but not like regular airplane lights..it wasn`t a helicopter... it could go straight up or down... move in one direction then head in another..it could do all kinds of weird stuff... sometimes it just hovered..then start doing all these weird maneuvers... regular aircraft is going somewhere,it`s headed in a direction..not this thing... i watched a regular airplane pass it... .
http://dsc.discovery.com/space/ufos-over-earth/
I noticed that is from 2008
Here's one for you Outlaw. Notice it shows a man and his dog observing the spaceship. Btw, did your dog see it? How did he react? Animals are supposed to be sensitive to many things we cannot see or hear.
This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the 15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and hangs as part of the Loeser collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the object.
good evening jwn!!...
as most of you know i live in a forest,in the mountains..at night there is very little light pollution... so the sky is one big theatre screen... i see shooting stars,northern lights,satellites,planes on a destination..it`s all very beautiful... tonight was different... .
tonight there was something in the sky that defied anything i`ve ever seen... it had multiple aircraft lights but not like regular airplane lights..it wasn`t a helicopter... it could go straight up or down... move in one direction then head in another..it could do all kinds of weird stuff... sometimes it just hovered..then start doing all these weird maneuvers... regular aircraft is going somewhere,it`s headed in a direction..not this thing... i watched a regular airplane pass it... .
...."It flew from cloud to cloud as if was trying to hide. In the open between the clouds it would almost fade in with the stars above but as soon as the ship jumped near to the top of next cloud, it would fade back into view, it is possible that the chemical composition of the earth’s cloud may have an undesirable effect of the Super-ship’s ability to stay invisible (think sun hitting falling rain to make a rainbow)."
"I finally find my camera. I turn my body back out to look southeast and I see a white/blue round probe/or a decoy (fig 2) with a little red blinking light on top of it. This UFO drop down from a huge cloud father south from where I saw the Super-ship last. This probe is hovering just below the cloud at about 20,000 feet and about 60 miles from me. It is blinking with an unrecognizable rhythm."
At 2:55 a.m., he flashed a "1 million candle watt power floodlight" at the object and it disappeared.
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/texas-witness-estimates-super-ship-was-7500-feet-long
So I guess it's not a good idea to shine a flash light back at them if you want them to stay around so you can observe them.
And it looks like the mother ship is here.
a few hypocritical goodies from said study edition, questions from readers, which starts on page 6. the article goes to great lenghts to point out that people in pre christian times were forgiven of their sins based on the sacrifice of the christ, which had not yet taken place.
fair enough.
the article explains that, in jehovah's eyes, the ransom was as good as done so it could be applied even though it was not yet paid.... ok... so if a married couple becomes intamite on the night before their wedding should we still form a jc?
elderite: Camo, i'm sorry that was my paraphrase, not a direct quote. No offense intended.
It doesn't matter that it was your paraphrase, elderite. I have heard many others "paraphrase" the very same things. WT seems to take it upon themselves to make statements that are not theirs to make. Their resurrection predictions are more statement of fact than prediction and they have made assertions about many bible characters without even knowing if some of these characters were myth or real. The bOrg has unlawfully seized the Throne of the Almighty.
were you shocked?.
was it eye opening?.
did you think these "apostates" were pretty much right?.
I was suprised that JWs would use bad words. I saw bad language a few times that really put me off at first. Now I even use it once in a while! Yes, apostates are bad influence!!!
I was concerned about elder thugs that might be seaching people out. But then I read more and became confident in my own knowledge of how things worked, I realized that I could take a tiger by the tail. Doesn't concern me anymore. I can deal with whatever anybody wants to attempt to throw at me.
It opened my eyes about a lot of things. I didn't know much about JWs. I had some friends who were JW and ventured here thinking it would give me some insight on why they believe some of the stuff they do. I had glanced over some of the mags and thought them pretty benign. That was until I began to scrutinize from things published here about how WT slips in little twists of their own.
I had been to Hall a couple of times and thought it was so very odd the way they made adults raise their hands like third graders and referred to cleaning chores as "priveliges". Also, someone "getting" to write the names on materials to be passed out thought it was a really special thing to be chosen. It just seemed so juvenile to me. But then, I began to see that WT takes advantage of those who have less education or are new in this country and they seem to capitalize on minority groups for their slaves.
comment on these paragraphs from the dec wt study february 14-20. r. .
eap blessings through.
blessing, keep listening to his voice.
Jehovah told Abraham: “By means of
your seed all nations of the earth will certainly
bless themselves due to the fact that
youhave listened tomy voice.” (Gen.22:18)
The act of "blessing" comes from the word "blood". To bless someone was to throw blood on them. I suppose this originated from using the blood of sacrificial animals. With that in mind, this above paragraph would mean that all would have blood on them and be bloodguilty by association for obeying that voice. In this case, as it was then, that voice is the the voice of man's rule on the pretense of being directed by some invisible spirit force. They rule by using mans superstition against him. They rule because weak men deny the voice of their own conscience and permit it. I have always thought it sounded very creepy when WT answers that evil happens because "it is permitted". Who permits it? Those who who do stand up against it!
a few hypocritical goodies from said study edition, questions from readers, which starts on page 6. the article goes to great lenghts to point out that people in pre christian times were forgiven of their sins based on the sacrifice of the christ, which had not yet taken place.
fair enough.
the article explains that, in jehovah's eyes, the ransom was as good as done so it could be applied even though it was not yet paid.... ok... so if a married couple becomes intamite on the night before their wedding should we still form a jc?
The org has said time and again that John the baptizer will not be resurected to heavenly life because he died prior to the christ and that arrangment was only from Jesus death forward.
Seems that the Org has given itself the power to decide who gets resurrected and who does not. Arrogance, assumption, and usurpation.
It is also disturbing the way they use the phrase "the christ" as it becomes an object and not a proper noun.
this thread is your chance to participate in an investigation... google is your friend..use it... .
the "bilderberg group" is a publicy known group..they don`t hide... they are the worlds "most" powerful people.. they influence your life everyday... they will influence your future... they have an agenda..and..have made a public statement about it... i will make the 1st post... of a public statement made by the "bilderberg group"... .
denis healey.
Vampire: I don't think OUTLAW is any more off his rocker than you are, cameo-d. In fact I'd say that OUTLAW would be the saner of you two by far...
CogDis: OK, I just want to say, that while I don't agree with Outlaw's take on all of this, given the history of cameo-d's posts on this forum, the queen of the tin-foil hats suggesting he is wearing a tin foil hat, is side-splittingly hilarious!
Is this really what y'all think of me???
I have never reported seeing flying saucers; I have never been abducted by aliens; I have never channeled spooks; I have never seen a Pleadian.
I don't know where you get off saying I am a Queen of tin hats.
I mentioned Bilderberg a good while back. It's not conspiracy theory. It is conspiracy fact!
excerpt from thread:
Watchtower *** w02 9/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
"The stars of God" are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these "stars" ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became "the mountain of meeting." By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those "stars." Instead of giving Jehovah credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in Jehovah’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the "shining one."
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Eupheumisms can be denoted by quotation marks. The "mountain of meeting" refers to the Bilderberg Group.
From the geneological etymology of the "Bilder" name, meaning and history:
Bilder is of Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic): Occupational name for a teacher, from an agent derrivative of Yiddish bildn, 'to educate', 'to cultivate'. ( http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Bilder-family-history.ashx )
Berg, of course, means "mountain".
Bilderberg=teachers from the mountain