"you see a painting you know it was painted by a painter. if you see creation you know it was created by a creator." - unstop
I understand your point perfectly.
I will change my ways and from now on, this is going to be my philosophy of life.
I just have a problem.
How created the creator?
Because, using your logic, my new way of life, I see a creator and I know that somewhere must be a creator, Creator.
" point is, god created you and if god was not real, than you would not be here."
Really?
"okay how about this statement, "if god there were no god, than there would be no atheist" - unstop
Really?
"if the god of the bible is real, would it be that hard to believe he can bring and put whereever however?" - unstop
Short answer, NO.
Read your statement a few times and you might catch something. What with the slave mentally. You just described a horrible, horrible been. If your "bottom line" really is preach and convert, you are doing the exact opposite.
I don't want to be part of, or have anything to do with the thing you just described.
"It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for his companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only ambition is to obey." - Robert G. Ingersoll (1833 – 1899)
“And why does this same god tell me how to raise my children, when he had who had to drown his?" - Robert G. Ingersoll (1833 – 1899)
Ismael
"The ark was never found." - prologos
God made the ark disappear. But, we shouldn't be surprised that the top "doug" removed the ark. After all, the guy was depressed after killing every man, woman, child, infant and unborn child on the planet (except drunkard Noah and company).
The ark was probably a painful reminder of this "unfortunate mood swing" (he is omniscience, he saw it coming) and was hence destroyed.
Ismael
"in all truth i dont know what would be my faith if i was born muslim, maybe if thats all i knew, i realize that possabilty. i would hope i would have the abilty to test my beliefs of that system to know it is wrong" - unstop
Do it then. Dare to challenge your believes, they should withstand any scrutiny.
Look at it this way. What if you are worshiping the wrong god?
Ismael
"mad: there is much proof that the bible is true, its histoically correct, the prophecys and what is says about the new birth, i know personally what the bibles says about being changed is true because it happened to me." - unstop
As I say before, I respect you (not your believes), but you. With all due respect, you are dodging the question.
Why do you believe?
You believe in christianity because we were raised in a christian culture. A muslim or a mormon or an orthodox jew (non of the deserve capital letters) believes for the same reason. Religions are spread about on the globe into separate geographical locations much like diets are different around the globe.
I can tie hercules throughout Greece. Elis was a real place. The Euxine Sea is the Black Sea. Nemea is also a real place, and the ruins of most of this places still there today.
Does this make hercules a real historical figure?
Spiritual personal experiences do not count. I am not trying to be a jackass, but I can tell people, in fact I can even convince myself that I was adducted by aliens (no anal probe please) and that doesn't make it so. I will need some kind of evidence.
Dare to question everything. You may not find all the answers, but the things that you will learn will worth the pain.
Take care,
Ismael
" i believe in gods word i believe in the adam and eve account." - unstop
May I ask why?
"BTW, there is no such thing as 'devolution': change happens to fit the environment, and there's no reason or need to insert such value judgments into the process of adaptation." - adamah
I agree with you but not completely, any creature can sprout physical traits that they thought they had abandoned millennia ago.
Atavism is the tendency to revert to ancestral type. In biology, an atavism is an evolutionary throwback, such as traits reappearing which had disappeared generations before.
MadGiant--is that question for me? -
No, I just read the OP.
It seems that unstoppable up to something, but maybe is afraid of the findings if a serious research is made. Next time someone go to the dentist should ask how many kid has she/he treated that don't have Wisdom tooth.
Here in Puerto Rico are many.
