I have been thinking the same thing. It boggles my mind. "Imperfect" people feel like this...I'm hoping God is love, and in this overall direction.
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Did Everyone Really Love Michael Jackson? (I'm Confused)
by minimus ineveryone talked about him as being a weirdo.
a pedo.
a freak.
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How key was "Releasing the Bonds" in your letting go?
by lurk3r ini finally ordered "releasing the bonds".
being a notorius procrastinator, i finally put it off long enough.ha.
cognitive dissonance.
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I finally ordered "Releasing the Bonds". Being a notorius procrastinator, I finally put it off long enough.ha
Cognitive dissonance. I think I finally get it. I recognized it for myself just the other week reading a post, on the DC highlites. When the Society says "Education is a concious matter"...followed closely by, "Jehovah will not bless you", it creates the whole "belief" conflict. Have i got that right?
I was curious about Mr Hassans book, for those of you that have read it. Was it instrumental in your letting go once and for all? As clear as it is so many times to me, that JW's do not have the "truth" exclusively, I still fall back into this whole line of thinking that I "should", and deep down I know it's the comfort factor. I'd rather be uncomfortable than live the lie. It's tough though.
Anyways, I'm really excited to get the book! I WANT it. You come to all these little "understandings" along the way when ya leave. But so often, despite them, you get right back to "old thinking". Is RTB key in the process of rediscoveing ones self? How did it afffect you personally? Would ya share it with me?
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Funny Names with Double Meaning
by dig692 injust saw the episode of the simpsons where bart calls moe's tavern and asks for "amanda huggenkiss" and it made me laugh again .
amanda huggenkiss.
hugh jazz.
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Hugh Jazz and Mike Litoris
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Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable
by minimus inhere's one example: being a congregation publisher.
nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.
they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..
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that the "truth"..is the truth.
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Releasing the Bonds - No longer being published.
by lurk3r ini went to a chapters store and tried to order mr. hassans book, and was told they can longer bring it in, as it is no longer published.
has this news made it here onto the site?.
amazon.ca has copies starting at 90.00, all the way to almost 275.00 !
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Thanks a bunch MM, I will do that.
Thank you as well Kahlua...I never knew about that site before.
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Releasing the Bonds - No longer being published.
by lurk3r ini went to a chapters store and tried to order mr. hassans book, and was told they can longer bring it in, as it is no longer published.
has this news made it here onto the site?.
amazon.ca has copies starting at 90.00, all the way to almost 275.00 !
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I went to a Chapters store and tried to order Mr. Hassans book, and was told they can longer bring it in, as it is no longer published. Has this news made it here onto the site?
Amazon.ca has copies starting at 90.00, all the way to almost 275.00 ! All used. http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/0967068800/ref=dp_olp_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1245815223&sr=8-1
Yes I want to read it, nope I don't wanna have to pay so much.
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marriage vows...
by lurk3r ini had a bit of a chin-wag with a freind of mine the other day.
we were talking about the questions that "nobody knows" and as witnesses, you can never get an answer for.
she came up with one i never thought about before so i thought i would share it here.. .
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My bad Blondie. Having a jackass morning...
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My experience with the Bethel Legal Dept. regarding a Ministerial Servant molesting a boy
by BonaFide inthe experience that follows contains some details that some might find graphic.
so be warned.. the body of elders received word that an unmarried ministerial servant, age 20, had been seen fondling a younger male bible student, age 14. the ministerial servant himself had been studying with the boy.
the ministerial servant was a quiet, timid brother.
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The question here the Society asks here is so ignorant, it's funny.
He asked about his behavior, were there any signs of homosexuality or an interest in younger boys?
Could someone tell me what the "signs of homosexuality" are exactly? "Yes brother, lately he has had a lisp, and at the last meeting he wore a pink dress shirt"
"Interest in younger boys?"
ridiculous.
I'm suprised they didn't ask if the younger boy had shown an interest in older boys as of late.
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marriage vows...
by lurk3r ini had a bit of a chin-wag with a freind of mine the other day.
we were talking about the questions that "nobody knows" and as witnesses, you can never get an answer for.
she came up with one i never thought about before so i thought i would share it here.. .
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Thanks for commenting peeples.
I'm suprised the society has not emphasized the "importance" of being married, in "jehovahs name". After all, his name is "divine" and there is "divine judgement" involved. If a person defiles the marriage bed, they are not accountable in a judicial commitee towards ceasar as much as they are Jehovah, even though it is the god of some other priest that married them, by the standards of jw's. Baptism could be viewed the same way - but it's not. Goes to show how the organization wants the control perhaps? Married is married. Baptism is baptism, yes?
rockmehardplace - a marriage before god, would be official when exactly?
Bluesbrother. - your question is a good one, thanks for adding it. I understand where your coming from with the principles concept.
whitedove/rachel - with the dubs trying to be so technical with things, perhaps this could be a way of bringing their picking and choosing to light?
mindmelda - are you shitting me? SUNG her vows? That's funny, how old was she, and did her hubby to be flinch? First marriage and he was willing to endure for the sake of getting some action for the first time?lol
Debbie Hairy - Is their anything more current? Or is that still "new light"?
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marriage vows...
by lurk3r ini had a bit of a chin-wag with a freind of mine the other day.
we were talking about the questions that "nobody knows" and as witnesses, you can never get an answer for.
she came up with one i never thought about before so i thought i would share it here.. .
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I had a bit of a chin-wag with a freind of mine the other day. We were talking about the questions that "nobody knows" and as Witnesses, you can never get an answer for. She came up with one I never thought about before so I thought I would share it here.
To a dub, there is no god other than Jehovah. The name "God" even falls short. To pray to "God", isn't enough as there are many false gods out there.Why does it count if your married, by law, by someone who doesn't recognize the name? A couple elopes, gets married by a "worldly" individual, or priest and swears it before god...but it's a different god by Witness reasoning. Yet that marriage, within the organization, it was to Jehovah...even though it wasn't. Or was it? Is "Ceasar" trumping the wtbs here?
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