Proof positive
Villabolo
yesterday, i went out for lunch with my parents when my mother made mention of something she had read in the newspaper about some new discovery of species that went extinct millions of years ago.
she asked my father what method is used to determine the age of something, because of course, this flies directly in face of the biblical account of life on this planet being only a few thousand years old.. anyway, my father related a story that some brother he ran into recently at the assembly told him.
this [unnamed] brother related a story told to him by another [unnamed] elder who knew an [unnamed] circuit serpent who was "really chummy with one of the [unnamed] executives at the royal ontario museum".
Proof positive
Villabolo
yesterday, i went out for lunch with my parents when my mother made mention of something she had read in the newspaper about some new discovery of species that went extinct millions of years ago.
she asked my father what method is used to determine the age of something, because of course, this flies directly in face of the biblical account of life on this planet being only a few thousand years old.. anyway, my father related a story that some brother he ran into recently at the assembly told him.
this [unnamed] brother related a story told to him by another [unnamed] elder who knew an [unnamed] circuit serpent who was "really chummy with one of the [unnamed] executives at the royal ontario museum".
Watson:
"I thought the creative days were 7,000 years long. We are in the 7th day, a day of rest for Jah. We are "approximately 6000 years into this 7th creative day, and the 1000 year reigh of Jesus is coming soon. ... Do I have the latest light on the subject?"
It's elementary, my dear watson. You don't have the latest light on the subject because it's always hiding in the hollow spaces between the eardrums of the Governing Body.
I remember Witnesses in the 1970s who thought each individual day of creation was 1,000 years long. I hear they're even less in tune with their own ORGANization's current light lies nowadays.
Villabolo
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
Flipper:
"The WT society silences those who wish to report child molesters to the police authorities, some have been DFed for going to the police reporting on elders who committed this FELONY crime. Parents are NOT INFORMED if a registered sex offender moves from one congregation to another with a past of child abuse offenses. Elders are informed- but NOT parents."
Listen closely Djeggnog, you abomination of a Watchtower worshipping Pharisee. You are, by virtue of your defense of your demonized organization, an accomplice to their crimes. Thus you make yourself worthy of the same punishment that should be handed out to them.
Take a look at these young ladies, victims of pedophiles whom you, in your morally depraved insanity, consider worthy of death by virtue of not groveling to those pedophile cuddling monstrosities. Then, if you have a milligram of conscience in your being, look in the mirror and condemn yourself as worthy of the same brutal death you, as a Watchtower slave, wished upon others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZpScLCMqEk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpXKzPwrA9s
Villabolo
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
djeggnog:
"If you want to leave God's organization, you can just leave; no one is going to make you stay. When you leave, you punish yourself since you know that you will have cut yourself off from the kind of association you may have had before making the decision to leave."
Oh, my demons! The "punishment" of cutting myself off from associating with a bunch of pharisaical; men worshipping; baby killing; child excommunicating; mindfuckable vagina brains who treat Jehovah as if He were a puppet on their strings; dancing to their tunes and a ventriloquist dummy with their eternally changing doctrinal dung coming out of His mechanical, wooden mouth! And Jesus, of course, as their decorative cardboard figure.
The HORROR of it all!
Villabolo
i never could, like some others described, i could never ever see myself there, i just couldnt imagine it at all,.
i wonder if that was a sign that deep down i didnt believe it?.
"i wonder if that was a sign that deep down i didnt believe it?"
I remember being told by the elder who 'studied' with me that "You should put yourself in the picture".
I barely could and I'm a very imaginative person who has conceived of alternative civilizations and so called "utopias".
Yes, it is a sign that something was wrong with that picture.
Villabolo
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
A little off topic, when is the next Apostafest going to take place?
Villabolo
after 33 years of being mind controlled at 5 meetings a week, field service meetings, special day assembly, curcuit assembly,district assembly, finding out "the truth" is just a big hoax is like getting punched in the stomach-uppercut in the jaw-being kicked in the balls from behind and then having the rug ripped out from under you and smashing your head on the ground.
what was it like for everyone else?.
Waking up one morning and finding out that your world was made of shit.
Villabolo
hi guys, i found a link that was posted here a while back, that had recordings of a ca in december, 2010.
(thanks) now, my friend would like to listen to all of it, as her college daughter just attended one here in arizona recently.
our question is - how similar are they to each other?
AuntBee. All of Jehovah's Witnesses talks are standardized whether they be local Kingdom Hall meetings, Circuit Assemblies or District Assemblies. This is so throughout the entire nation.
They're often times outlines or can even be verbatim; scripted exactly word for word.
Villabolo
do you miss the "friends"?.
do you miss the meetings?.
do you miss field service?.
"I still have tons of beautiful suits and ties. I still buy a lot of suits. I just go 2 pairs of jeans for XMas and I still haven't worn them. I never owned jeans, btw."
I think you've been traumatized.
And no, there's nothing to miss:
Like the "friend" who returned some of my stuff because an elder, who was going to be on my Judicial Committee, told him (a non elder) before the JC, that there was trouble brewing with me.
Or hearing the disfellowshipping announcements of friends.
Or the panic attack I got while in field service.
Or the wasted adolescent life I had waiting for Armageddon during the 1970s.
Villabolo
i have such a love/hate, 50/50 relationship with this organization any more, but a letter was read to the elders and ministerial servants that has pushed me to the 30/70 range in favor of hate, if even momentarily.
most of you if not all are aware of the auxilliary pioneering initiative for this upcoming april.
it's no secret that i'm not real fond of pioneering as its unscriptural for one thing.
"I have such a love/hate, 50/50 relationship with this organization any more, but a letter was read to the elders and ministerial servants that has pushed me to the 30/70 range in favor of hate, if even momentarily."
Nothing personal, Misery, but how long have you been on this board? Get with it! It should have been 101% by now.
Anyway, it's nice to know that they keep throwing bundles on the proverbial camel's back. As soon as you start to hear the camels spine snapping, let us know.
Villabolo