Posts by trebor

I have just read through this thread. FHN, I wish your son a safe and healthy recovery, and may you and your family find strength and support during this difficult time.

-trebor

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Have you called your mother lately?

by beksbks in

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my mom is pretty cool.

81 years old and still going fairly strong.

my older sister was the first one to leave the dubs in our 3rd gen jw family.

Well over a year ago my mother along with my siblings told me never to contact them in any manner unless I came back to the organization. Nonetheless, my mother is excellent at being a mom to young children.

Once her children become preteens and older (Especially adults), she does not know how to cope and adjust. Regardless, I still love and try my utmost to respect her. However, she tried literally to choke my brother-in-law after he told her to stay out of their business (Meaning him and his fiancee - My sister). She also believes to this day my father should have literally thrown my brother-in-law down a flight of stairs because of it. She has verbally and emotionally attacked my wife prior to our marriage and during. For the most part she treated me well, except when it came to relationships/friendships of mine outside of the family. She has too much of a controlling and manipulating nature which is done in a passive aggressive way. I blame that on her past and of course the example set by both the actions and teachings coming from the Watchtower Society. Decades of their indoctrination is more than ample to screw people up further by burying their problems on the notion that everything is "temporary" along with other notions and philosophies I have heard her lean upon thanks to the ideas put forward in the Society's publications.

She came from an abusive household in which both of her parents were alcoholics. Her oldest living brother basically took care of the family and essentially had in her mind that should be my role as well. My father sadly also came from an abusive household in which his father also left the family when my father was 8 or 9 years old.

They both were in their teens when they married and I was born when my mother was still a teenager and my father was in his early twenties. The religion is essentially my mother's whole life. There were a few times I recall when she started having doubts, but unfortunately I was still under the cult control of the Watchtower and convinced her to wait on Jehovah the organization.

Not surprisingly, they were ideal candidates for this cult. An ideal scenario for joining cults is those in their mid teens to mid twenties and has emotional baggage/problems from broken homes or an abusive past. My father is/was still talking to me (somewhat), but it has been awhile since we last spoke. I think he is between a rock and a hard place with this scenario and deep down knows Jehovah's Witnesses aren't "the truth", but also understands how deeply entrenched my mother is and all the ties they both have to it being a part of it for so many decades. There was much cognitive dissonance in the discussions on his part when we had both face to face conversations and on the phone.

Anyhow, sorry for going off on a tangent; Getting back on track...I would like to call my mother, but she already made her stance clear (And actually emphasized it not to long ago). I still have hope for all my family will break free of this cult-like organization. If not, I wish them happiness and hope they lead relatively healthy lives (Which I know is near impossible with the directions from the Watchtower Society).

-trebor

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-30-09 WT Study (STEWARD)

by blondie in

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http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.

http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.

http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.

trebor

Great job as usual, Blondie!

hamsterbait, here's the quote and citation you mean:

Our coming to know "the truth" - the entire body of Christian teachings that has become part of the Bible - and adhering to it are essential for our salvation. - Watchtower December 15 2008, pg 28. (emphasis added)

-Trebor

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I'm back... Updates about hubby...

by cognac in

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turns out, he really doesn't seem to like anything spiritual.

he hasn't been to a meeting in weeks.

we went out with a bunch of jws the other night and at the end he told me he was pissed they brought spiritual things up.

trebor

Great to have you back, cognac...

And that's wonderful news about your hubby!

-trebor

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Attn New York Residents: Help Change Child Abuse Laws

by blondie in

survivors network of those abused by priests dear snap members and supporters:.

we are being asked to help survivors in new york state who are working with lawmakers to change the law there to both protect children and to help survivors heal.. .

you don't need to live in new york state to help.

trebor

Signed. Thanks Blondie for bringing this to our attention.

-trebor

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Letter to former JW friends

by bluecanary in

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my mother has been burning to write a letter to old friends among the witnesses.

we move around so much and were never great at keeping in touch.

no one knows we've left the b0rg, but we don't care who finds out.

trebor

I disagree with both Steve and Reniaa. I performed a similar action and put together all the details along with logic reasoning and presented it to my wife. She was able to break free of the Watchtower Society's hold.

My wife and I then sent similar information to the rest of our 'immediate' family (Parents, siblings). Thankfully, my wife's parents were able to also break free of the Society, sadly my parents and siblings have not (yet)...But there's always hope.

You never know who you may reach. Even if your letter helps just one person, it is well worth it. Your letter may be just what they need to wake them up from the ways of the Society. I am living proof that sending such information does work. While it may not work for many, even if it works for a few or even just one person, think of all the good you have accomplished.

Additionally, it may not provide immediate results but may help in the accumulation of information or perhaps even the start of collecting information and reasoning for those people, assisting them to think outside of the Watchtower Society's teachings and interpretations.

-Trebor

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Hey...no more lurking...

by pmgirl in

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hey,.

this is my first post on this forum after months of reading and lurking on here.

i'm glad to be able to say that my husband and i finally sent our letter saying we want out and are wait to hear back for a potential jc meeting--that we won't be attending.. we had so many doubts it was impossible for us to continue living the lie.

trebor

It's great to read you both have 'officially' left the Watchtower Society. Freedom, clean conscience, honesty, integrity, justice, truth and better understanding are just some of the benefits gained by taking the steps you two have made.

-Trebor

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Order 66

by sd-7 in

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it's probably been asked before, but i'm curious.

i'm back again.

anyway, simple question: would jws take up weapons and kill people if the gb told them to, using 'appropriate scriptural backing'?

trebor

The Watchtower, November 15, 1952, page 703, Questions from Readers:

"In the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped [disassociated], how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?

We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. . . Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God’s law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshipped from his congregation."

The message to Jehovah's Witnesses above is a family member should be killed as they were exterminated (Stoned to death) for apostasy among "theocratic nations". The only things stopping them are the law of the land and God's law through Christ. Basically, too bad such laws are in place or else we would stone our apostate fleshly family members to death!

-Trebor