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  Finally all the proof you'll ever need that Jesus was black !!!!

  by caliber in

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  there were 3 good arguments that jesus was black .

  1. he called everyone "brother" .

  2. he liked gospel .

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  Insulting Terms used by the WashTowel

  by punkofnice in

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  loading the language is a propogandist tactic to trigger a reaction in the mind.

  a prime example is the word 'apostate'!.

  i have been called 'spiritually weak' for quitting field service, meetings etc.. how would you respond (without swearing or giving a punch up the hooter), if you were called this?.

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  "Kindly"

  How often do you use that term? I'm guessing, on a average day, never.

  Yet, my JW mother, uses it every damn time I talk to her. She uses the term like a regular person would use "politely" or "nice". Very annoying.

  "I just did it to treat So and So KINDLY." That word is pure Watchtower speak. Treat them *kindly* and they will come. Come to what?

  I. Hate. That. Word.

  Oh, just thought of another:

  Gluttony. Again, who uses that word? JWs, that's who.
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  Being honest with yourself, could you have reasonably adjusted your attitude and continued on as a JW?

  by miseryloveselders in

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  i ask this question in harmony with deedub's swan song thread which i linked below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/205902/1/time-to-say-good-bye.

  to some degree, i think i understand where she's coming from.

  just speaking from my own experiences since stepping into the world of anonymous apostacy, i went through a few different phases of personal outlooks.

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  Being raised in this religion, I know how imperfect people can treat one another all the while having a phony smile and declaring their love for Jehovah. But just because we've experienced wrong from the likes of those people, does that mean we give into to them and take all our marbles and go home? Are we possibly being childish or unreasonable by judging the entire organization based off of the actions of a few? There's more I didn't mention such as blood, and shunning...

  They are phony. They have done us wrong.

  We are not childish or unreasonable by judging the entire b0rg.

  Because it's a C-U-L-T.

  I'm dealing with a sister who is dying--she'll be dead within months. She's a DFd JW. She's an avowed Atheist. Loudly Atheist. Our mom asked me to pray to Jehovah that he and his angels watch over her. Huh? She's DFd and an Atheist. Mom knows this. Sis has not been reticent about her views.

  Mom also said she told her congregation (different than the one that DFd sis) and they all are praying for her also. WTF?! I asked my mom what would happen if sis and/or I walked in that congregation tomorrow?

  Uh, well....

  Yeah, I know, they would SHUN us. Period. No question. And, if they knew they were being asked to pray for a DFd person, they wouldn't, would they? No, she admitted, they wouldn't.

  She also said if my sis needed a blood transfusion she shouldn't get one, however, since she was DFd it didn't matter, so, she could.

  I am so sick of the JWs and how they have fucked up my family. Every aspect and corner of my family life has been torched by them. Every corner. And yes, I mean torched, like by an extreme fire.
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

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  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  As an added note to this:

  My sister is dying--she will be going into a hospice soon. She is an affirmed atheist (DFd JW). Suddenly, after being told people are praying for her, JWs and Christians in general, she is saying "thank you" and saying maybe there is a God.

  That is how critical thinking works. It goes out the window when emotions and other things happen.
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
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  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  Even with critical thinking etc., people would still get caught up in cults and other groups like that. As PSac noted, critical thinking only gets you so far. There are emotions, psychology, past experiences, and on and on that influence human behavior.

  Why are there educated JWs and Scientologists?
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  Can't call him father, so "This is my [dad, daddy, daddyo, papa, pops, pappy, sire, beginner, don, begetter, male parent]

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  dear question from readers .

  i realize that watchtower is clear in avoiding fancy titles when it comes to people.

  jesus said, "do not call anyone your father on earth".

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  If the first name is good enough for The Heavenly Big Guy, why not for the earthly spawner?
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  What Are You Passionate About?

  by minimus in

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  what's your passion?.

  some people are very intense when it comes to politics, religion, jws, sex, love, the arts, music and almost anything that could get them revved up..

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  Meat.

  Cheese.

  Wine.

  Fast cars.

  I could go on.
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  seperating anger for WT from my mom

  by dogisgod in

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  i posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

  how do i seperate the anger i have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after i left.

  she justwouldn't leave it alone.

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  I'm so sorry for what you went through. As meangirl noted above, the JWs do seem to attract the crazies. Believe me, I understand that. And the anger you feel for your mom.

  My sister holds an extreme amount of anger towards our mother for making us go to meetings, out in FS, etc. There is much more, but, suffice it to say that she will never, ever forgive our mother for being a JW and rubs it in her face any chance she gets. It has eaten her alive. My sister that is. Literally. She is dying now with cancer and can't remember why she is so mad at our mom. It is heart breaking.

  I haven't forgiven our Mom either. However, I try not to let it eat at me.

  Then again, I guess if I were over it I wouldn't be on this board. It is very helpful to read stories similar to mine. Hopefully time will have the desired result. Good luck on your legal issues.
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  As a witness, what view of the world did you have? Heres my story

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  so heres my story:.

  i just turned 20 years old.

  like many i was raised as a jw.

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  Hello and Welcome to the forum!!

  I like Mr. Falcon's analogy of North Korea: The JWs are like the North Koreans. Kept cold, hungry and not given any outside information. They are told that the outside world is evil and bad. There is just no good way to look at it. Stepford Wives. Robots.

  When you see that smiling lady at work, look around you more as you go about your day. You'll see lots more smiling faces. They don't want to harm you. They aren't evil. They just want to live their lives. Like most average Joes out there.

  As noted above--try to get an education. Once you have that no JW can ever take it away.

  Good luck.
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  Has anyone knocked on your door recently?

  by dysfunction in

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  2. bible

  i am a housewife, and no one has knocked on my door to spread the "truth",not even on the weekends.

  question, has anyone experienced this... or has the preaching work slowed down?

  or are the witnesses less active, zealous?.

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  Just the girl scouts and a kid offering to shovel my driveway.

  I purchased some cookies and let the young man shovel. Viva le free market!!

  (No JWs in about 2.5 years)