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  My Uncle is Dying.

  by LouBelle in

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  nearly a year ago my uncle was diagnosed with prostate cancer - he initially thought it was just a bladder infection and it took him passing out to go have more serious tests.

  thus he received this news and shared it with us, his family.. the family rallied behind him and we all did everything we could to get him to his treatments, make sure he ate properly and supported him.

  my cousins came out from the uk when it looked like he was going to die in a couple of days.

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  LouBelle, I am very sorry about your Uncle.

  What you wrote was very insightful. Hugs.
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  Psychotherapy Cults by the late Margaret Singer Ph.D.

  by Dogpatch in

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  the term "cult" is often associated with a process that has been given a variety of labels, including "thought reform" (lifton, 1961), "coercive persuasion" (schein, 1956, 1961), "brainwashing," (hunter, 1953), "mind control" (langone, 1988), the "systematic manipulation of psychological and social influence" (singer, 1983), "coordinated programs of coercive influence and behavior control" (ofshe & singer, 1986), and "exploitative persuasion" (singer & addis, 1991).

  " the new york times, b1-b2.. .

  american journal of psychiatry, 107, 594-598.. .

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  Thank you!

  My ardent JW mom told me that a gal in an abusive relationship was similar to someone in a cult. I actually laughed out loud. I do see the similarities. However, for my mom to tell me that and not see herself in that big mirror; well, heck. I had to laugh. I didn't even try to explain. I said I coughed.

  She watches a lot of Dr. Phil.
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  No Forthcoming Photos :-(

  by snowbird in

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  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42900991/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/?gt1=43001.

  ah, well .... "to one who has faith, no explanation is necessary.

  to one without faith, no explanation is possible.".

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  I found this particulary profound:

  I smell really good.

  You do. Remember when we went to the antiwar rally and shared a vegan wrap? I patchoulied your armpit hair. MMMMMM.

  I gotta say it: That is one of the funniest things I've read on a thread by NeckBeard to Beks!!
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  Anyone understand the Federal Reserve System?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  but i want to educate myself.

  like all jw's, i didn't give a shit about those sorts of things, unless there was an article in the magazine we were placing that month.

  and even then, a very shallow understanding is all that i wanted or needed to 'place' the magazine.

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  This might be a good volumn to start with:

  http://www.amazon.com/History-Federal-Reserve-1913-1951/dp/0226520005
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  Tell Us What's Happening on Mother's Day

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so many of us are free, so many of us are not.. share whatever "mother's day" activity you will be involved in this year.

  moms and those with non or ex-jw moms, whazzup?.

  tell us how that makes you feel, your involvement or lack of involvement in mother's day..

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  I sent my mother flowers. I also sent them to my ill sister in the hospital; her only child hasn't spoken to her in months and has only visited her once since she started treatment for XXXX back in January.

  As a side, my mom got the flowers yesterday and after calling me to tell me all about her day and how miserable it was she said:

  "oh, yeah, it was the day of your birth yesterday. You're now a day older." That's it, that is how she acknowledged my birthday, the day before. She then said "I've been too busy with your sister's stuff think about you."

  Ummm, yeah. Whatever. Thanks Mom. You make honoring you easy. Really. <sarcasm>

  Then she said "Oh, and thanks for the flowers."

  Why do I bother?

  Oh, because I hate to lower myself to her level and I like doing nice things like that.
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  Would you/could you look at the pics of dead Osama Bin Laden?

  by Broken Promises in

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  if, and i'm saying, if, the pics of osama were released, would you want to look at them?.

  do you think you could stomach the sight of a man with a bullet through the eye?.

  or would it be worth it just to prove once and for all that the terrorist king is dead?.

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  Let's see, we've (us Apostates) grew up with and have seen graphic Watchtowers and Awakes showing people being killed at Armageddon. No biggie.

  Then came Friday and 13th and The Terminator movies. And video games.

  Yes, we can handle it. I want to see them.

  I also want to see the video that the SEALs were wearing when they walked in.

  A 40-50 minute fire fight?

  With who? OBLs unarmed wives? His children? Oh, his aide/courier.

  A 40-50 minute fire fight which turned out to be "one sided". And short. Hmmm.

  Details, details.

  Show the video, show the pictures. Censorship is not good. Especially in America.
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  Do You Blame Your Current Life's Issues Because You Were A JW?

  by minimus in

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  do you tend to blame your problems on the fact that you were a jehovah's witness?.

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  So many people blame "not going to college", "not getting a college education" on the WT.

  How many people in the US go to college and complete that education?

  According to Wikipedia, which pulled it's data from the US Census, 27%.

  So, 27% of YOU would have gone on to college and completed a Bachelors degree. Yet, the main gripe is "I didn't get to go to college". Were you qualified? Did you take the testing? Did you and/or your parents have the funding and the means to go to college. College ain't cheap. Even 25 years ago, it was expensive and college loans had an interest rate of 15%. Currently they are 7%. A few years ago they were 3%. That is huge over the repayment period and can make the difference between purchasing a much needed car and/or a home.

  So, for the 27% of you who could have/would have gone--what would you have studied? Did you have a plan? I did. I went. I paid my loans (15%) off in my alloted 10 years and rented a crappy apartment.

  What about you?

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States
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  Osama bin Laden is Dead

  by jamiebowers in

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  on abc special news bulletin now..

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  I certainly will not be "offended" by photos of OBL dead, head blown apart or not.

  I grew up seeing WT articles of people falling into craters created by our great Creator Jehovah during the mass murder to be known as Armageddon. I accepted this as fate. Then the Friday the Thirteenth movies came out along with other horror movies and movies showing all types of carnage. Terminator etc.

  And they think we'll be offended by seeing the most wanted criminal in modern history dead?

  Give me a F6cking break!

  Show the damn pictures.
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  No Forthcoming Photos :-(

  by snowbird in

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  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42900991/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/?gt1=43001.

  ah, well .... "to one who has faith, no explanation is necessary.

  to one without faith, no explanation is possible.".

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  Photo, video, etc.

  I want to see his brain splayed across the screen.

  Just like I saw those people falling from the twin towers, I can handle it. I won't go out and kill any Muslims as a result. I just want "Closure". Seeing it will give me Closure.

  Is that too much to ask of my Government?
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  "origins" of teachings/holidays matter, but not to anything JW

  by oompa in

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  jw's are always saying the origins of things are pagan...referring to all holidays and false doctrines that all other religions are chock full of.

  so why does it not matter that the "modern day" orginazations origins were full of what we now know were false teachings?

  and they followed one man...russel, then rutherford for many years...which is their own unique definition of part of what a "cult" is.. instead of placing any emphasis on how pagan or wrong the origins of early teachings of wt are...they simply say there has been new light.

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  I always send my JW mom flowers and a card for Mother's Day. She never once has refused them nor has she said "Oh, don't that's a pagan holiday". She also accepts all gifts on her birthday, Xmas and any other holiday (pagan or otherwise).

  Morals and ethics, JW style.