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Ever had some Witness storm out or turn off a Movie you were watching! Which one?

by Witness 007 in

i was watching steve martin "leap of faith" pg rated mind you with some witnesses.

he plays a fake faith healer.

their were a couple swear words, and the brothers asked me to switch it off.. same thing happened with christine applegate movie {pg 13} "don't tell mom the babysiters dead.

VIII

Brokeback Mountain.

My mom said the homosexual sex was too much for her. She had to flee the theater.

I had to ask what she expected, since no secret was made about what the movie was about? She got silent and said she had to go.

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William's sister's dad at the US Open

by startingover in

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a friend told me that he saw richard williams, the girl's dad, in the audience wearing a cap that said "jehovah is god" anyone else see it?

anyone know his standing as regards the jw's?.

WhiteHouse Website - Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama

by jeanniebeanz in

i didn't see this posted yet.

youve got to work for it and train for it and learn for it.and this isnt just important for your own life and your own future.

you make your own future.

VIII

Again, as JO noted, Obama's first speech to the children was different and has been amended due to the uproar.

As is now acknowledged by his Education Secretary Arne Duncan on MSNBC:

Hours before Obama was to make an appearance that has been tinged by controversy, Duncan acknowledged that someone in the administration erred in suggesting students compose letters saying how they can be supportive of the president's policy goals.

Interviewed on MSNBC Tuesday morning, Duncan conceded that guidance passed out in connection with Obama's appearance at a school in Arlington, Va., "was not worded perfectly correct." But he said the focus must be on young people, not "all the adult talk." Duncan said the most critical issue is to reverse what has become a 30 percent high school dropout rate .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090908/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_obama_speech_duncan

Duh.

So, as was pointed on on previous threads, the angst was never about Obama's New Message, which is *Stay in School.*.

As I have pointed out, with the number of drop out Ex-JWs who bemoan their lot in life because of a lack of education--(dropping out to Pioneer), I think this is a great message, even coming from the Socialist Obama. I would have no problem having my kid hear *this* message--the stay in school one, that is.

Again, this is different from his initial message noted above by the President's own Secretary of Education which was *How can you be supportive of the Presidents Agenda*.

I don't want my children being supportive of a Socialist agenda.

Interestingly, one of the reasons cited for so many schools NOT showing his speech is the lack of cable and / or broadband connections in every classroom. I never considered that personally and it brought to light one of the little things that people don't consider when denouncing why schools aren't showing this live.

The cost to wire all those classrooms for live feed is tremendous and, apparently, many school systems just don't have the money for *that*. They are wired for sound, but not for live video.

That bit of information was on NBC news last night.

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...A message from Alex...

by OUTLAW in

this ad was posted to craig's list personals:.

to the guy who tried to mug me in downtown savannah night before last.

date: 05-27-09, 1:43 a m est.

VIII

I'm buying a gun.

And a Burberry jacket.

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Got a handle on my alcohol use.

by Gregor in

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very handy.. .

VIII

Palmtree, just ask him to use gloves the first time he tries that move. It does sound like it could be fruitful.

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Got a handle on my alcohol use.

by Gregor in

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very handy.. .

VIII

Should a Gyno be asking patients out? Seems--dirty. Not you palmtree, the Doc. If he's hitting on you, who else?

Gregor, nice bottle. Do you pour or suck it out?

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if it walks like a duck.....

by ninja in

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6140484/barack-obama-accused-of-trying-to-indoctrinate-children-with-socialism.html.

VIII

Even in Illinois (his adopted home state), his support is waning.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-obama-poll04sep04,0,2367412.story

As for the your story and link, his speech will not be required viewing in Chicago Public Schools. Which, in and of itself, is incredible.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/09/obamas_backtoschool_lesson_pla.html

When his adopted home town is not behind him, and it is a Democratic stronghold, he is on shaky ground.

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I need help in facing our abuser...

by cognac in

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the thought of it scares me so much i can't even think straight... just writing this makes my heart race like you wouldn't believe.. i need to face my dad and mom.

my dad abused us, my mom allowed the abuse.

i need to face him with my two older brothers - the ones who got it the worst and who never faced them about it.... i know my mind will go blank so i'm simply going to write out what i have to say and read it to them.

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Wow, Lady Lee, your Mother and mine are twins. Mine does and says exactly what your does. Same story with her own Mother too. I, just recently, confronted her and told her, face to face, to stop the lies--I refuse to hear them, etc. She immediately shut up. The whole "The Truth" issue is what kills me. She is a total hypocrite. I now have another book to read. Toxic Parents. Thanks for mentioning that.

This is a really good thread.

Cognac, I really wish you well and hope the best for you. Hugs.

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Give Your Advice To Anyone Planning To Fade

by minimus in

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list some thoughts and suggestions for anyone thinking about fading from the organization..

VIII

Work obligations, especially with this economy, seem like they might work.

I was lucky in that I went away to college. I was in school, working PT, studying and simply couldn't justify going to meetings to miss studying for class. I could always say I had a test the next day or a quiz in the morning. I was able to fade rather quickly that way.

When I got back home, I started working and went back to school and took more classes. Plus, I was working overtime. My mom simply couldn't justify me not making money. I had student loans, an auto loan and rent (her) to pay, so she knew I needed cash. Work won out over the JWs.

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I need help in facing our abuser...

by cognac in

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the thought of it scares me so much i can't even think straight... just writing this makes my heart race like you wouldn't believe.. i need to face my dad and mom.

my dad abused us, my mom allowed the abuse.

i need to face him with my two older brothers - the ones who got it the worst and who never faced them about it.... i know my mind will go blank so i'm simply going to write out what i have to say and read it to them.

VIII

cognac, I am so sorry for your pain.

Bluecanary is correct: most abusers will not acknowledge the abuse and will try mind games on you. The personality disorders (them, not you) is all too common, which is why they abuse children with such abandon. Narcissism is a good thing to read up on.

Reading from a script like that is a good idea. At least you can keep on point and when they try to interrupt of dissuade you, you will not lose your train of thought. I honestly don't know if you'll get closure or healing, but, getting to finally say *it* to them will at least make you feel so much better.

PS: I told my mom about the things (severe abuse-verbal and physical and emotional) she did and said to me and my sister. I got a JW lecture and was told it was because children need to be handled severely so they will get Jehovahs spirit and we deserved it. Believe me when I say that sometimes true closure is never found unless you totally cut them off and get therapy. (I probably should-get therapy)