i saw them in the distance going door to door , (about 6 of them plus child in pushchair ) i knew i had to walk past them but started panicking !
i was thinking please dont speak to me or i will explain why im not interested in your religion , i left my town to get away from them !
due to my daughters sexual abuse by a ex min servant who had abused others in the congregation also but had never been reported !
You are not alone. Anytime my door bell rings on a Saturday I get a slight "Oh, NOOOO!!!" feeling and then have to decide whether or not to blindly answer the door.
I have answered the door a few times during the week and been caught off guard by them in the past year, oddly enough. I suddenly lost all ability to think of all the things I know and could only say "I'm not interested". I wimped out. I do understand that panicky feeling.
... and wanted to disrupt sites like this one and activities of 'apostates' in general, what would i do?.
would i send apologists who were obviously on the side of the wts to spew out the typical wts message, ones that would be quickly labelled and disagreed with?
maybe ... it would get people riled up.
Ummm, I gotta stick up for Minimus. Blaming him for saying:
I am sick and tired of people putting down posters like the Andersons! They work hard to expose some things we might never have known about. Why some find fault with them, or Ray Franz before them, or Maximus when he was here is beyond me.
Be thankful for those that decide to come here and share what they know about this Organization.
We get elders who are still in their positions and they share with us a lot of interesting news and perspectives. Rather than beat them down, why not just appreciate them??
IS B-A-T S-H-I-T C-R-A-Z-Y!!
What is wrong with y'all?!! You start fighting like my Mom and sister over a dought and forget what his original post was about.
Think people think.
i get a kick out of the posters that get upset over realizing that their opinions are not always appreciated.
the forum owner has made it plain that he calls the shots and not everything expressed by posters will be accepted.. folks, that's thev way it's always been here.
simon will call the shots.
I am on some other forums. It is amazing what people say. And get away with. The religious arguments and intolerance are eye opening. The political stuff makes this look like a bunch of still-in JWs talking. And it's a forum on exercise!!! These folks get into these topics on an exercise forum. Yoga actually. The mods delete all swear words. Nothing else. Go figure.
So, as far as free speech goes, this one is actually pretty open, considering.
I may or may not agree with people's views--but, I have decided to just not respond. Or, not read the thread. Life is too short people.
i get a kick out of the posters that get upset over realizing that their opinions are not always appreciated.
the forum owner has made it plain that he calls the shots and not everything expressed by posters will be accepted.. folks, that's thev way it's always been here.
simon will call the shots.
So, will this thread go on for pages and pages?
I'm free....
Hugs!!
... and wanted to disrupt sites like this one and activities of 'apostates' in general, what would i do?.
would i send apologists who were obviously on the side of the wts to spew out the typical wts message, ones that would be quickly labelled and disagreed with?
maybe ... it would get people riled up.
I don't think anyone at the WTS would even have a Bethel boy come here. They would think he was Demon-eyezed afterward. LOL! ( I know my Mom is suspicious of me lately! )
<sigh>
Please peeps, just relax and be happy the word is getting out on WTS and quit shooting the messenger. Thank Al Gore the Internet was created!!
i am sick and tired of people putting down posters like the andersons!
they work hard to expose some things we might never have known about.
why some find fault with them, or ray franz before them, or maximus when he was here is beyond me.. be thankful for those that decide to come here and share what they know about this organization.. we get elders who are still in their positions and they share with us a lot of interesting news and perspectives.
What Undercover said.
+1
well this is refreshing.
good to see interest has faded for his fear-mongering, hate-filled conspiracy rants.. .
glenn becks fox show droppedby david bauder ap television writer apr 6, 2011 2:30pm.
Beck's crazy rants are dangerous! William F. Buckley, Scalia, Roberts, Alito and other conservatives I can respect. The world is richer for exposure to different points of view. Opponents of my views help me clarify and explain my own. I joined a Fox news boycott years ago. What concerns me is the birther nuts. Becks knows Obama is a ciitizen. He is not that dumb. Michelle Bachmann knows Obama is a citizen.Donald Trump knows for certain. She is not that dumb. It terrifies me to see educated people spout a crazy story to rev up the base. I loved John Stewart's Rally for Sanity.
Colbert knows he does comedy. What did Hitler do? He was not that bright but I admit I also don't believe that he believed the venom he stirred up. Millions died.
If you've boycotted Fox how do you know his crazy rants are dangerous?
Hitler? Some of you really do need to sit back, realize this guy is an *Entertainer*, a *Radio Personality* and to call him "Dangerous" and within the same post bring up Hitler, well, I have to say it:
You've jumped The Shark. Where is Fonzi?
He did what anyone with half a brain and the ability to speak clearly and make a joke did: Made lots of money when given an opportunity. Think of every comic out there. Like Larry the Cable Guy.
{Then again he did get that Swarmy guy fired from Obama's staff. What was his name? Van Jones. The Green Jobs Czar. We know what a fine job he was doing for Obama. At least someone was looking out for us taxpayers--and Obama, no doubt. Too bad the HR peeps in WH staffing weren't-oops--Thankfully GB was there to cover Obamas butt before Van Jones got into any more trouble, huh?---:-) }
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Didn't read the whole thread, sorry.
When I was a Dub, of course, I thought Satan and his Demons were out there just waiting to *get me*. How? Not really sure. At night sometimes I'd wake up terrified that they were under the bed and if the sheet wasn't tucked in tightly that was it, I was toast, they'd get me from under the bed.
Now, nothing. Zip, zilch, nada. I am more afraid of the coyotes outside. Literal, wild coyotes.
I got into a conversation with my JW mom last week on this.
She is convinced my BIL is DEMONIZED. Literally, completely DEMONIZED.
Why? Because he is a complete and utter POS. I mean Douche Bag. With a capital D and B.
So, her answer for his bordering on criminal behavior?
He's Demonized.
She said "I know you don't believe in it. I prayed to Jehovah and he told me Jxxx is Demonized. I just knew it. It would explain the look in his eyes. Have you noticed he won't look you in the eyes??"
Me to Mom "Huh. Well, since he won't look you in the eyes how can you see the Demons or even "The Look"?"
She realized I was being sarcastic and immediately tried to drop it.
I said "Look, he is just a big XXXXX " and I called him a few really filthy names. (Believe me, if I cataloged all the things this guy did, he'd be in jail)
She looked shocked, decided I was right and followed suit.
So much for Satan.
No I don't believe in him or his minions.
I think (some) people are Douche Bags.
the following is only my own personal analysis.. take it or leave it.
but, by all means jump in and have a say.. .
i think more and more we are losing our grasp on a wonderful venue at jw-net.. as a discussion board, i mean.. at one time, there were a great many wonderful and interesting discussions by a variety of persons with varied backgrounds having a good.
1.Do you see a Thread Topic and read ALL of the posts before you comment? Or, do you jump to the end and have your say?
It depends on the thread, the topic, the OP, how long the thread is, etc. Sometimes I comment on the OP, sometimes I jump in. Usually I just read. I don't have too many posts considering how long I've been here.
2.Do you consider what the actual Topic started off being rather than where it may have derailed?
I try. I try to stay on track. Again, it depends on how far I've read and how many comments have been made. If there are pages and pages of comments I don't bother. Why jump in and say something that was already said?
3. Do you ask and answer questions factually, with references, quotations? Or, is yours exclusively an emotional response?
I try to be factual with references and quotes. I ignore comments which are only cut and pastes from a blog or other online source and I also ignore someone who drones on without references on a complex subject. Prove your point with hard facts. Not Wikipedia. Any idiot can use and post on Wikipedia.
4.Do you care if there is a fundamental difference between an opinion and a fact?
Yes. Opinions are like A-holes. ;-)
5.Are your posts HUGE CHUNKS OF DENSE PARAGRAPHS THAT GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON?
Not usually.
6.Are you pithy (like Minimus) and to the point?
Try to be.
7.If you had to characterize your own contributions to JW-net in one word or two at the most; what would it be?
Pertinent.
