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  I need help regarding Michael's Jackson JW past...

  by JustHuman14 in

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  guys i really got some trouble here in greece with some jw's who claim that m.j was never a jw.

  they even claim that reporters and media are trying to create negative inviroment against jw's by saying that michael was a jw.. so you guys in u.s.a can you give me some links, or copies of u.s newspapers and media that show exactly the opposite..... thanks guys for your help.

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  dutchstef

  You Could try to find the book from Latoya Jackson called: La Toya: Growing Up in the Jackson Family.

  She realy goes deep into the JW history of the Jackson family also about how involved Michael was With JW's untill the mid-eighties.
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  Oldest bible being put online - what will that mean for WTS teachings?

  by Simon in

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  (and of course for christianity as a whole).

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7651105.stm.

  the problem is ... the oldest bible shows that it's been changed significantly so all the claims about it being gods word are clearly bogus.

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  During the reighn of the first christian ceacar Consantine, they gatherred all the bisschops at the consile of Nicea, and there they decided what historic books would end up in the bible as we now know it.....

  There are many more books written by apostals and old historical figures who worshipped God, that simply did not get in to the bible because it contridicted with the way they wanted the people to believe...

  I have read some of those books and believe me, you get surprised
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

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  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  God did not know Adam and others would sin... he must have been as surprised as anyone else when they did... when they did Sin

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  So you think God is not Almighty?
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

  1. watchtower
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  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  Yiz,

  Not everything is as black and white as your examples. There is a grey area between good and evil...

  If( read If...) I would believe everything genesis tells me, then I would be killed by god for beeing Gay....for instance.. Well I don't consider myself Evil...
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  dutchstef

  Sorry,

  I mean:

  And that brings us back to the other question, why then did he give us free will, if we Can't get killed for using it....(Sometimes translating dutch to english in my mind goes wrong)
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  dutchstef

  That prooves that god created us as slaves!!!

  And that brings us back to the other question, why then did he give us free will, if we can't get killed for using it....
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  dutchstef

  The only problem you have with that analogy is God has all your money. It already belongs to Him

  That prooves that god created us as slaves!!!
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  dutchstef

  Spike,

  Is there a bibletekst where Jesus actualy talks about Adam and Eve.... ( could be...I didn't know)? And I don't mean somthing like god created humanbeing, but realy their names?
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  Book of Revelation--UNAUTHENTIC

  by cameo-d in

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  2. bible

  i ran across a blurb in wiki that stated that the book of revelation was long regarded as unauthentic and was not accepted until 1200 a.d.. has anyone explored this?.

  your thoughts, please..

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  dutchstef

  Cameo-d

  In the Netherlands there are still some reformed/ protestand Churches who still don't use the revelation book...

  Don't know the exact name of those churches but I renember having descusions with them in the feeldservice.

  I thought one of them is named Church of artikle.....( and then a number)

  I can try to find out for you...
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  If god was Almighty than he would of known that Adam and Eve and....Satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.

  by dutchstef in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.

  one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.

  the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .

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  dutchstef

  Deputy Dog,

  I must agree with you..

  It's like having a gun put on your Head and be given the choice You can either give your money or I kill you...