i know of a few others.
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Geri Halliwell. from the Spice Girls is a former JW.
And in Holland we've got a Pornstar called "Kim Holland" who used to be a JW.
She lives in the ssame city as I do The Hague.
I met her a view times in a gayclub "The Strass" and the first time we met she recognised me from circuitmeatings when I was a small boy.
hat was a realy weird experience talking to a pornstar about JW stuff.....
last weekend i was enjoing the good weather in holland with my mother and my kid sister, who still is a jw, on a terras, drinking a beer.. my mother always tries to tell something positive that happened at the cong or something that she read in the washtowel and then i react negative or not at all.
it's a kind of game i don't know.. this time she said something like despite the fact that armageddon doesn't have to come during the generation of 1914, that does not mean that it isn't near... and then my kid sister reacted on this and said yes...possibly 2012.... i was pretty stunned... of this remark.. has anyone else heard something about the jw's now focussing on the year 2012?.
Last weekend I was enjoing the good weather in Holland with my mother and my kid sister, who still is a JW, on a terras, drinking a beer.
My mother always tries to tell something positive that happened at the cong or something that she read in the washtowel and then I react negative or not at all. It's a kind of game I don't know.
This time she said something like despite the fact that armageddon doesn't have to come during the generation of 1914, that does not mean that it isn't near... and then my kid sister reacted on this and said yes...possibly 2012...
I was pretty stunned... of this remark.
Has anyone else heard something about the JW's now focussing on the year 2012?
guys i really got some trouble here in greece with some jw's who claim that m.j was never a jw.
they even claim that reporters and media are trying to create negative inviroment against jw's by saying that michael was a jw.. so you guys in u.s.a can you give me some links, or copies of u.s newspapers and media that show exactly the opposite..... thanks guys for your help.
justhuman.
You Could try to find the book from Latoya Jackson called: La Toya: Growing Up in the Jackson Family.
She realy goes deep into the JW history of the Jackson family also about how involved Michael was With JW's untill the mid-eighties.
(and of course for christianity as a whole).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7651105.stm.
the problem is ... the oldest bible shows that it's been changed significantly so all the claims about it being gods word are clearly bogus.
During the reighn of the first christian ceacar Consantine, they gatherred all the bisschops at the consile of Nicea, and there they decided what historic books would end up in the bible as we now know it.....
There are many more books written by apostals and old historical figures who worshipped God, that simply did not get in to the bible because it contridicted with the way they wanted the people to believe...
I have read some of those books and believe me, you get surprised
i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.
one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.
the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .
God did not know Adam and others would sin... he must have been as surprised as anyone else when they did... when they did Sin
Lezleesm
So you think God is not Almighty?
i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.
one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.
the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .
Yiz,
Not everything is as black and white as your examples. There is a grey area between good and evil...
If( read If...) I would believe everything genesis tells me, then I would be killed by god for beeing Gay....for instance.. Well I don't consider myself Evil...
i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.
one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.
the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .
Sorry,
I mean:
And that brings us back to the other question, why then did he give us free will, if we Can't get killed for using it....(Sometimes translating dutch to english in my mind goes wrong)
i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.
one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.
the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .
That prooves that god created us as slaves!!!
And that brings us back to the other question, why then did he give us free will, if we can't get killed for using it....
i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.
one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.
the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .
The only problem you have with that analogy is God has all your money. It already belongs to Him
That prooves that god created us as slaves!!!
i posted this a before under an other topis, but i think it's a good question for a new topic!.
one of the things i never understout as a young kid was this:.
the question i had as a kid was: if god is almighty than he would of known that adam and eve and....satan... and demons....would sin before he even created anything.. my father who was an elder back then could never give me a good answer.... my dad would say something like because it's was necessary for god to show us and the angels, we can only have a good live if we live it like god wants .
Spike,
Is there a bibletekst where Jesus actualy talks about Adam and Eve.... ( could be...I didn't know)? And I don't mean somthing like god created humanbeing, but realy their names?
