the experience that follows contains some details that some might find graphic.
so be warned.. the body of elders received word that an unmarried ministerial servant, age 20, had been seen fondling a younger male bible student, age 14. the ministerial servant himself had been studying with the boy.
the ministerial servant was a quiet, timid brother.
The WBTS is a corporation. That's all it is. It has nothing to do w/Jehovah, Jesus or anything.
They are all over "They will take away our place and our nation." just like the scribes and pharisees of the 1st century (and every religious organization which has ever been).
the experience that follows contains some details that some might find graphic.
so be warned.. the body of elders received word that an unmarried ministerial servant, age 20, had been seen fondling a younger male bible student, age 14. the ministerial servant himself had been studying with the boy.
the ministerial servant was a quiet, timid brother.
You nailed it Tuesday. Anyone who argues differently (like that 'R' person) is saying "molestation is ok, just don't get caught".
In a way this reminds me of Jesus and his remarks about the scribes and pharisees who would violate the law of the sabbath to rescue an animal they owned, but wouldn't lift a finger to help someone in need using the sabbath laws as technicalities.
The WTBS strains out the gnat and gulps down the camel.
can it truly be said that it's possible to understand something you can't explain?.
if faith is belief in some thing or some oneother than onesself.... .
then what does this say about fidelity or infidelity, faith in or apostasy from any thing or any one?.
I think most apply the term to the apparent motion of objects which are dropped and call that "gravity". They can explain what they can see.
"Look here son, now this is "gravity"...Pick that rock up and then let it go....See?...That's what we call "gravity".
So this person "believes" and can "explain" what he sees to his son and his belief is restricted to those things. He cannot reach to "believe" what he cannot understand and explain.
It's like imagining visualizing the ability to "see" in 360 degrees. You simply cannot do it. If you cannot do (explain/understand) you cannot "believe".
I "believe" people imagine they are "believing" when they're really just playing around with verbal algebraics substituting "believe" for any number of things which they can explain and understand. It's a shell game people play with themselves.
can it truly be said that it's possible to understand something you can't explain?.
if faith is belief in some thing or some oneother than onesself.... .
then what does this say about fidelity or infidelity, faith in or apostasy from any thing or any one?.
Can it truly be said that it's possible to understand something you can't explain?
If faith is belief in some thing or some oneother than onesself...
Then what does this say about fidelity or infidelity, faith in or apostasy from any thing or any one?
a friend of mine was making a joke the other day about what i would do with my spare time if there was no watchtower, he was wondering if anything could actually end the watchtower or make it obvious to everyone in the world that they are not the true religion and therefore kill off their supply of possible converts.
i mentioned luciousvbogeyman on youtube and his mentionings of a plot for nov 5th, 2017 which lead to a bunch of postulating on my behalf of what he could possibly be planning.. this lead to something i found pretty interesting and figured i'd post here to see what everyone else thought about it.
percent of attrition of jws is what around 60%?
It has merits! Of course the first thing I'd do is run all the language through a spell-checker first. Then we'd have to organize a street parade like this one:
:)
excuse me.
i read in a topic that someone had the audio to the convention?
is there anyway they can come forth and send them to me?
for those whow believe god authored the bible , this info will make you question your faith.
very well done.. i would love to see how the wts would respond to this, especially after the new publication on the bible was just released at the convention.. maybe one of our inhouse scholars (narkissos/leolia) can back up this info.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061773048178434620&hl=en.
The truth is that we cannot know what the truth is. We can engage in textual criticism on the various texts, we can form various hypothesis as to what was believed or said by various groups for various reasons, but none of these things establishes the truth of either what the texts themselves originally said, whether these individuals (whomever these might have been) accurately recorded what actually occurred, or even if these things which might have been accurately recorded were ever true statements when these things were being spoken, said or done.
What can be said is "This is what I'd like to be true, these are the reasons I'd like these things to be true and these are the reasons I have for supporting actions which suggest that these things are true."
We can discuss:
1. Why I want these things to be true.
2. What evidences I'm putting forward to submit for examination.
3. Why I feel that I can honestly act in fath on these things being an accurate reflection of truth.
the eminent 20th century philosopher karl popper condemned a closed society where criticism is suppressed as the most undesirable and dangerous type of society (eg, george orwell's 1984).
yet the watchtower organisation is a religious society that forbids criticism, open debate and has a leadership that is completely unaccountable to it's members.
the watchtower leaderhship enjoys unquestioned authority over all doctrine, policy and teaching and total submission from it's adherents.
Of course a person could ask...
"What do you mean by ___ ?"
And then by
"How do you know ___ to be ___?"
If this is repeated I think you can see where this will lead anyone who wants to take an authoritative position on anything.
for those whow believe god authored the bible , this info will make you question your faith.
very well done.. i would love to see how the wts would respond to this, especially after the new publication on the bible was just released at the convention.. maybe one of our inhouse scholars (narkissos/leolia) can back up this info.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061773048178434620&hl=en.
Though interesting, that's not the point that I'm driving at. I don't see where anything in any of the Gospel accounts indicate any sort of concern on the part of Jesus to clarify these differences.
