for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?
i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.
did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.
Quite frankly, it doesn't matter to the person being stoned for some perceived religious offense as to whether or not those waving the banner of this or that invisible fiend is "properly dividing" the so called "Holy" writ in so doing.
They are too busy dying.
regardless of your religious background, how many of you have had any type of a paranormal or supernatural experience, good or bad?.
i've known a number of people who have tried ouija boards.
most had just creepy feelings, but one had a nasty experience.
i was curious if anyone else has gone through a similar experience.. when i became inactive 4 years ago, i went through a period of not being able to focus on just about anything, other than doing tremendous amounts of research to prove to myself what my beliefs were, and to clearly identify my issues with the jw organization.
i was mad - and i was on a mission to build the ultimate case against the wt.
however, having read the fine advice on here, i backed off with my family, since it would have just gotten ugly.. i avoided posting on here for years, and had cut down my research and put it on the back burner.. however, i still felt a need to "witness" to my family and to have an open discussion with my wife.
I think the desire and the behavior is understandable. I also believe it's an attempt to reclaim what's been stolen from the self.
The problem is that this thing that's been "stolen" is something that can't be recovered.
You just have to scar over and move on.
Your conscience is your own and you don't have to justify your conscience to anyone but yourself.
I think in the end that's what it's all about...convincing your self that you are right.
Remember in proving anything wrong, you don't have to take on every little thing.
Just one thing will do.
We don't arrest a man caught with blood on his hands and charge him with murder AND late fines on his library books.
The murder rap is all you need.
i often read posts on here citing some km school or wt article and the comment that "now they are tightening their grip" or "they will now go after faders" etc, etc.
my perception is that the vast majority of jws, including the elders, are suffering from apathy and fatigue.
most simply don't care anymore.
If you care about the "Truth", it takes time, but eventually you leave or you compromise your conscience.
I had a rather bendy conscience and tried for the longest time to reason my way around the organization's deficiencies.
Then I took a look at the morality of "Jehovah" or any deity that created this world and the arguments for tolerating evil all seemed to be a horrible little bar-bet between two powerful beings who really didn't have the same level of morality as the creation.
The creation was MORE MORAL.
That was when I knew that was it.
I can't be anything but an agnostic now.
I still wish the earth was going to be a paradise.
I still wish all the tears from every eye was going to be wiped out.
But I don't think that will ever happen.
I think it's just the grave along with all the others who thought similar thoughts, but lacked the pen and paper and historical posterity to record the morbidity of their thoughts.
I'm almost hoping that some still believe their fiction, because if they do, at least for the moment they have hope.
The thing to do is to put together your best resume. Switch it around a bit, and then change the name on it. Put it out on Dice and spam some jobs in localities you never plan on moving to and then sit back and practice interviewing over the phone.
When you do go to the REAL interview with your REAL name, no one need know but that you have HOURS of experience in the interview blender.
You'll be SWELL!
go to the disclosetv site.
it is claimed that on jan. 10 the journal of cosmology published a paper by 4 scientists stating that hard evidence of fossilized single cell life was found in a sri lanka meterorite.. .
i've got some reading to do.. i just stumbled on to this and it appears to be real..... metatron.
Every theory of life is missing crucial pieces. The standard non-directed model of evolution bounded by random mutations and natural selection is demonstrably insufficient to the task, and raining down even single celled replicating organisms frozen and revived from meteorites (which haven't been found) is still insufficient because the effective novelty production machinery simply isn't there.
The only theory at present which in fact is just based on phenomenology and lacking a meterial theory at this point is Rupert Sheldrakes "Theory of Formative Causation". This doesn't help us at the moment because it involves "fields" which thus far we have no means for detecting. This in and of itself isn't a cause for alarm, but it is cause for annoyance.
mormon culture is replete with the concept of multiple gods and requires it to work.
other than a few biblical references does anyone have any compelling arguments for why any god, deist , creationist or full on personal god would - of necessity- be alone.
the argument seems somewhat weaker if the gender is applied as well.
Why is it even important to ask the question?
Isn't it more important to ask about the morality of creating a universe predicated on carnivorous behavior? Life eating life?
Any moral deity worth a "sacrifice" wouldn't ask for one and wouldn't create a universe like this one.
i'm a bit excited about this to be honest with you.
i'm not even remotely a cycling fan, but all this controversy made it a bit difficult to simply ignore.
i'm curious to see how he does when those questions come at him full force.
Quick!
Name some pro cyclists who haven't doped!
....
Now prove it!
this concept just always caused a conflict in my mind.
i can remove the idea of predestination with knowing something in advance, why would the watch tower insist that god chooses not to know something?
is that even possible for god?
No sentient being can ever know if it is or isn't omniscient.
Nor can this being know if it is the creator of all that is.
It can possibly be the creator as far as it thinks it knows of what it thinks it knows.
That's not the same thing as omniscience.
i say - general tee so.
friend 1 says - general chow su .
friend 2 insists - general cho.
The "T" is silent.
"General So"
