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  New Ex-JW Documentary To Be Released

  by discreetslave in

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  about filmtruth be told is a feature length documentary that explores the lives of several individuals raised in the jehovahs witnesses religion.

  the title of the film refers to the tendency by jehovahs witnesses to regard their beliefs exclusively as the truth.. the documentary is not an indictment of religion but rather a retrospective.

  in a series of informal interviews, former jehovahs witnesses discuss life experiences within the organization including the impact the religion had on their childhood and family, schooling, adolescence, and approaches to dating and marriage.

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  Thanks to JWN I know about film projects such as 'Truth Be Told' and 'Losing My Religion', both of which I am interested in. I 'like' both of their pages on Facebook, thus I am aware that 'Truth Be Told' has recently released their official trailer
  
  https://www.facebook.com/hereliesthetruth
  
  I'm excited that a finished product is in sight!
  
  The 'Losing My Religion' project seems like it still has a ways to go...
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  CO begging for more MS's

  by life is to short in

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  2. bible

  the co is at my husbands hall this week so i tied in to the meeting he was going on and on about how there are 140 elders in the circuit and only 80 something ms's.

  of the elders 25 are over 75 years old.

  of the ms's it was about 20 are over 75 years old.

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  I was appointed a MS back in 2004. The following year we had a CO visit during Memorial Day weekend in May. One of the MS's was away from the Thursday visiting his fiancee on the East coast. The PO was at the Friday meeting with the Elders and MS's but was going out of town from Sat for a wedding. Another MS and I had plans to go to a soccer match (US vs. England) in Chicago (I am from St. Louis) on the Sat. Under normal circumstances, my friend and I would have made it a long weekend in Chicago, but because we had the CO visit, we planned on being at the meeting on Sunday which was in the afternoon.
  
  At the meeting with the MS's and Elders on Friday, towards the end of the meeting with the MS's the CO asked me if I could say the prayer after the field service meeting on Saturday. I told him I was not going to be out in service the next day. He in turn asked if I could say the prayer at the Sunday morning service meeting, and I told him I was not going to be out in service on Sunday. He seemed quite baffled. My friend, the other MS, and I left the meeting and meetup with our other friend who was going to Chicago with us, we were staying at his and hitting the road early in the morning the next day. My MS friend's Dad was an Elder. So during the meeting with the elders, the CO asked my friend's Dad why my friend and I were not going to be out in service at the weekend. He told him that we were going to be out of town, but back for the meeting on Sunday. This put the CO over the edge and he told the elder body he wanted to delete me, my friend, the MS that was already out of town, and the PO, because we did not show proper respect for the CO arrangement. From what I've been told, two other elders talked him out of deleting all of us on the saturday. Whether he would be able to go through with this is unknown to me.

  After the meeting on the Sunday, he pulled me aside and counseled me on showing more respect for the CO arrangement and my appointment of being an MS. This was the beginning of me becominng disillusioned with being an MS. After a couple of years, I purposely moved to another congregation so I could step down from being an MS without the shame of such being announced from the platform. And a year after that, I broked through the fear of researching the WT on the internet, and the rest is history...
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  Jack Johnson's intelligent SLAM of the JW's? "Never Know"...

  by wearewatchingyouman in

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  the first time i heard this song it just sang to my soul... i immediately made the connection to jehovah's witnesses... i heard he studied @ one time... it would make sense, since he's a seeker, that he would want to know what they had to say... i don't know for sure if it's true or not... but when you look at the words of this song it's pretty friekin' obvious to me that this is an epic slam on the dogma of the twooth and how the experience affected him... then again it could just be my interpretation... the funny thing is he's one of the few mainsteam artists that i hear witnesses talk about in a positive light... what do you think?.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcvjq58opaw.

  i heard this old story before.

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  Thanks for sharing wearewatchingyouman! I haven't listen to that song for ages, but listening to it now, make me realize how much the song lyrics resonate with me. I myself was a born-n, so I was raised to believe in an absolute truth. But as I got older and my critical thinking skills developed, cognitive dissonance eventually kicked in, and I realize I couldn't believe in the absolute truth I was taught. I think one purpose religion serves is providing answers concerning death, why we die, and what happens to us after death, etc. I find peace in not knowing for sure.
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  I'm out officially (to them)

  by pubtruth in

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  2. friends

  tonight i'm officially no longer an unbaptized publisher after two months of no reports.

  the zealous elder i have mentioned before got an earful of my thoughts and jumped on me with the guilting and about 2 hrs of studying 607 + blood.

  i admitted researching and he had told me how you guys are no more than 100 resentful, lifeless, disfellowshipped people just hating on them.

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  pubtruth, why did you study with JWs in the first place???
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  Breaking News: Explosion in Oslo

  by leavingwt in

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  2. current

  just heard about this via twitter.. .

  http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/eksplosjon-i-oslo-sentrum-3544362.html.

  more photos: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180673.ece.

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  http://news.yahoo.com/witnesses-describe-scene-terror-norway-camp-010853069.html

  "The gunman who killed at least 80 people at an island youth camp northwest of Oslo used his disguise to lure in his victims, then shot them twice to make sure they were dead, survivors said in the village of Sundvollen, where they were taken after the massacre."

  Such a sad story. How would have such news stories affected you while a JW? Would you have used it in a field ministry presentation? How does such world events affect you now?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Education on Cult Free Radio - UStream

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are less than 12 hours away from the next cult free radio show.

  tonight's topic is jws and education.

  we have three interviews lined up (two are already recorded!

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  Mad Sweeney, thanks for posting the podcast, I just listenend to it, nice work. Also, thanks to the others who shared their experiences, very interesting to listen to.
  
  I myself was raised as a JW in a fairly affluent area (in the US). I graduated high school in 2000. My parents encouraged me to attend University (of course only if I still lived at home).

  College education was not taboo in my congregation. I think mainly because a lot of the elders had degrees and careers. Of course, they would repeat the watchtower corporate message of encouraging young people to pioneer and go to bethel, and put on a pedestal those that did. But if a family decided to send a kid to college, they didn't get any static from the elders. I mean how could they. Our PO had a senior corportate job, and his son went to university.

  I faded in '08, but its still interesting to keep tabs on the watchtower's stance on higher education...
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFDd1rl28EQ
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  Jesus Gives Woman an Orgasm

  by jj123jj123 in

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  http://www.todaysbigthing.com/funny-videos/2011/03/24.

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  http://www.todaysbigthing.com/funny-videos/2011/03/24
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  Do You EVER Think These World Events Could Be Prophecies Being Fulfilled?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  either from the bible, nostradamas or by some other seer?.

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  I believe there is another question that is tied in with this question of, "could These World Events Could Be Prophecies Being Fulfilled?" and that question is: Will I be saved by God?
  
  I was raised as a JW, so I was taught to believe that I would never die, as the end would come, and I would be saved by God. After learning that people in the 1920's were told the same thing (Millions Now Living Will Never Die...), the cognitive dissonance kicked in. I now believe one day I will die, but I don't fear that it will be by the hand of God, or "Prophecies Being Fulfilled". I can only hope that I will live a long, healthy, and fulfilling life in this world. But who is to say I am not affected one day my an unforseen occurence or by a natural diaster like the people of Japan.

  Could God one day intervene and save the world and my ass as well? I don't rule it out, as my existence is evidence to me that anything is possible. But I believe it is much healthier to view life in this world as terminal. Billions of people died before I was born. One day I will die and billions of people will live and die after I am dead.
  
  For any LOST fans reading this. In the last season there was an episode where the man in black says to Jacob, "Everybody dies Jacob". That one line really reasonated with me. I cannot recall the episode or the context of the scene, if you know, please remind me.
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  Are we losing members quicker than the WT ??

  by wobble in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  reading a thread from just a few months ago, made me realise that a lot of people who used to be regular contributors here no longer do so.. i know that people have always moved on, as the anger and hurt get less, as the wt mind-set totally disappears, we feel the need to come here less and less, but because of the intelligence, insight, wit and wisdom of these people, the board is somewhat impoverished each time one of these moves on.. this is a plea to all who post now, and some who still read but don't post, please do not leave us entirely, the contributions on here are literally life-saving for many.

  it is easy to get dangerously suicidal when the whole wt pack of cards falls down for you.. please do not become a stranger to us !.

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  how many registered users are there for this site?

  I definately read way more than I post. I'm aware of jw recovery, but I like this site way more. Is there a better jw forum on the web???

  I like that you can filter this site by active/recent topics. In many ways I view this site as a news site (though I do enjoy reading the personal experiences), I mean this site pretty much keeps me up to date with the comings and goings of the WTBS. Also from time to time, I find users will post external links to very interesting content that is not strictly JW related.
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  New member - my story

  by Millions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a brief introduction, i thought i would try out one of the more established forums, have done some stuff on youtube and other places but thought i would give this a try.. potted history: raised jw by mother, in it for 30 years or so, baptised at age 18, regular pioneer at 20, ms a couple years later, mts at 26 and got assignment to a new cong, elder at around 29, came off pioneering around 31, came off as elder around 32, started to slowly wind down, completely stopped attending about 3 years ago, disassociated dec 2010. pause for breath.. the last 5 years or so have been a painfully gradual process of deconstructing myself and then piecing together fragments of my shattered life that are still valid outside the organisation.

  the question 'who am i?

  ' has been a continual investigation; every day for the first couple of years i would realise another subject or issue that i didn't have my own opinions about.

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  I just watched your wise up video, very amusing, nice work!
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1GIFY94klk