to arrive at its date of 607 bce for jerusalems destruction, the wts uses what it calls bible chronology.. this bible chronology says that since the seventy year period ended in 537 bce, when 70 years are counted back this provides the 607 bce date for jerusalems destruction.. the wts says its bible chronology method is superior to the secular uninspired chronology provided by secular sources.. does the wtss bible chronology align with the bibles teachings on the seventy years?
is its method the valid way to determine when jerusalem was destroyed?.
these matters are discussed in my study, which is available at:.
Too much time spent studying chronology would make/transform the Christian into an historian....
and God does not require that / He helps us through His Spirit to discern from Bible what is useful for us
God points toward the "chronology of the latter days" wich is good to be understood
and
wantingtruth
the october 1, 2011 watchtower article when was ancient jerusalem destroyed?
includes the following statement.. .
there is also strong evidence from cuneiform documents that prior to the reign of nabopolassar (the first king of the neo-babylonian period), another king (ashuretel-ilani) ruled for four years in babylonia.
Something the "Watchtower" left out :
it is the "teaching of Christ" they have left out !
9 Whosoever goeth onward and abideth not in the teaching of Christ, hath not God: he that abideth in the teaching, the same hath both the Father and the Son.
a persistent meme that floats around on jw related internet forums holds that christ's second coming was moved forward 40 years (i.e.
from 1874 to 1914) in the year 1943.
(this appears to be based primarily on a statment in the book god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached on page 209 and to a lesser degree, a footnote at the bottom of page 133 of the publication jehovah's witnesses - proclaimers of god's kingdom.).
djeggnog , I don't know who you are, but I recommend to you this study:
wantingtruth
i spoke with my mother, told her everything, my doubts, my fears, my sins.
it came rushing out.
my mother is devastated.
Hello KN !
"The truth shall make you free" / it implies a little knowledge from Bible ! The Knowledge as Jesus is giving to those asking !
I believe in Father and His Son , and after I became "free" from organizations, this is what I have been helped to understand:
The Kingdom of God – when in Heaven ? — according to “Jesus’ teaching”
Are JWs Exclusively God’s People?
The "latter days" chronology revealed
I hope the knowledge of the truth shall make you free...in Christ !
wantingtruth.
on internet forums such as these, it is to be expected that there will be people who want to save jw's.
esp from (thinking for) themselves.. however, the real dillema's facing an ex jw who leaves, whether on their own terms or being disfellowshipped are real and haven't changed.. .
lonliness, how to make friends, is a big issue.. fear, esp fear based on superstition, a fear of god and of the future that is not in any way based in proveable fact.. education, how to think and reason critically to avoid being taken advantage of is a big challenge.. love, sex, and how to navigate your way around all of that hot mess.. geez, yeah, forgot.
The real issue facing former Jehovah's Witnesses is who they are.
That's very true !
the situations we are experiencing these times reveals what we have deep in our hearts / who we really are / the hidden things of our hearth.....
...according to what is written Mark 4
22. For there is nothing hid, save that it should be manifested; neither was anything made secret, but that it should come to light.
and this action of "revealing of all hidden things" means "judgment"
Ecclesiastes 12
13. This is the end of the matter; all hath been heard: fear God, and keep his commandments; for this is the whole duty of man.
14. For God will bring every work into judgment, with every hidden thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
i watch the watchtower leaders crumble, slowly crumble.
one nonsensical move after the other.
you have no idea how this makes me feel.
When God sent Moses to Pharaoh, He armed him with the demand "Let My people go, that they may serve Me." At one point Pharaoh was okay to let them go on his (Pharaoh's) own terms. One of the teachings here ... Israelites could not serve YHWH when service was regulated by any other master than YHWH. The way JWs follow and believe the WT teachings amount to idolatry.
One cannot serve 2 masters - God and the WT corporation.
You said it right !
YHWH promise is here: Micah 7:
15. As in the days of thy coming forth out of the land of Egypt will I show unto them marvellous things.
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TODAY is the most appropriate time to "seek for God's Kingdom" as Jesus said (Matt 6:33) !
Why ?
Because today it is happening as prophesied : "that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands , and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold;"
"a stone" is God's Kingdom coming on earth , and it is disintegrating the "unity" between iron and clay
"this stone" "brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold" , that is, the whole image that the GB has built that their own "God's organization" means "God's Kingdom on earth" is demolished
THIS is God's Judgement upon Babylon the Great(all false worships) and her "daughter" the WT "form of worship"- Isaiah 47
the lovers of God's righteousness have to be happy now !
this is YHWH's action:
25. And thou, O deadly wounded wicked one, the prince of Israel (the GB) , whose day is come, in the time of the iniquity of the end, 26. thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Remove the mitre, and take off the crown; this shall be no more the same;
exalt that which is low, and abase that which is high.
wantingtruth
david splane not only believes in eternal torment, he practices it.. in our 2010 dvd, jehovah's witnesses faith in action, part 1: out of darkness , br.
splane said this starting at 14:16, "he (russell) could never reconcile the teaching of eternal torment with the description of the bible of a loving god.
as he examined the creeds of the great churches when he saw that they taught that the wicked are tormented eternally, why, he just could not accept that.
Are you usually this good at starting conversations?
No, I am not good at starting conversations
english is not mine
for this reason I am only inviting men (an specially Christians) to think... to God's word
wantingtruth
hello folks,.
i feel like a fish who has been struggling for oxygen so long he's almost dead.
time to grow some legs and get the hell out of hell.
"... the Governing Body, as a whole, is a mechanized body of men whose main purpose is the preservation of a system not the search for truth."
david splane not only believes in eternal torment, he practices it.. in our 2010 dvd, jehovah's witnesses faith in action, part 1: out of darkness , br.
splane said this starting at 14:16, "he (russell) could never reconcile the teaching of eternal torment with the description of the bible of a loving god.
as he examined the creeds of the great churches when he saw that they taught that the wicked are tormented eternally, why, he just could not accept that.
While it may appear that the Watchtower leadership moves as a block it does not believe as a block. It will crack and when it does a true hellfire will occur at Bethel.
Hello DTW
How are you ? Have you read Obadiah ?
1. The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord Jehovah concerning Edom: We have heard tidings from Jehovah, and an ambassador is sent among the nations, saying,
Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.
2. Behold, I have made thee small among the nations: thou art greatly despised.
3. The pride of thy heart hath deceived thee, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4. Though thou mount on high as the eagle, and though thy nest be set among the stars, I will bring thee down from thence, saith Jehovah.
5. If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night (how art thou cut off!), would they not steal only till they had enough? if grape-gatherers came to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes?
6. How are the things of Esau searched! how are his hidden treasures sought out!
7. All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee on thy way, even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread lay a snare under thee: there is no understanding in him.
8. Shall I not in that day, saith Jehovah, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
9. And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one may be cut off from the mount of Esau by slaughter.
10. For the violence done to thy brother Jacob, shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
Let you consider that the Edom = Esau = the GB
and "thy brother Jacob" are the simply anointed ones who don't "worship" the GB .
The question is , what do you understand Obadiah is saying ?
wantingtruth
hello folks,.
i feel like a fish who has been struggling for oxygen so long he's almost dead.
time to grow some legs and get the hell out of hell.
I also believe that the Watchtower will be corrected just as ancient Israel was corrected.
welcome , DTW !
I also believe that the WT will be corrected just as ancient Israel was corrected when Jesus came at them !
They did not received Him, so they (as nation ) were abandoned ! >> the same with WT and its GB !
11 He came unto his own, and they that were his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name:
