good morning folks!
i have believed in the 1914 jw core teaching for more than 20 years.
but now, after seeing much about this date, i find it uncomfortable and odd to believe it unquestionably, much less defend it against opposing thoughts.
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Indeed, it has been proved that Jesus is King ruling in Heavens immediate after His resurrection.
The 1914 has no value , together with all the "maths" used to support it.
Speaking "biblically" , the whole interpretation leading to "1914" is beyond "the teaching of Christ" / 2 John1:9 .
wt
(of course, this will be "old news" to many of you...but, this is especially written for the "newbies" who may not know of the following.).
... i was just wondering .... .
i remember back when i was very active among the jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower society recommended a special procedure they used to do to put pressure upon bible studies of jehovah's witnesses by doing something they called: "directing attention to the organization.
i just joined this site after researching the recent 'new light" my daughter is an unbaptized witness, as well as her husband and my grandchildren.
i was baptized in the 80s but i am inactive for years now because of changes and inconsintancies etc.. .
if the sheep and the goats teaching has been changed to happen after the great tribultaion, or after armageddon then this would mean that everyone would not be seperated or judged until after armageddon has occured.
You are welcome, Verenda / greetings from Romania !
I think it would be good for you to see some Biblical points of view wich hopefully will answer your questions (regarding truth)
wantingtruth.
who really is the faithful slave?
i have, for some time, related to my family the underlying reason why the governors at headquarters (pg22p10) say what they say & do what they do.
simply put, they need to make themselves big.
The JW's have 8 but only as one body, so it like a octo-inity. 8 headed monster.
That's interesting observation ! .... and close to the truth
These men are the apostates not us!!!!
Greetings label licker !
I invit you to "study" this article - it fits with your own conclusion /// click here !
wt
i received this strange e-mail from romania.
to worship god in spirit , it means to have the understanding of his word , in spirit .
what is the truth ?
TheOld Hippie, what you said is right
Yet , this letter (in the first post ) is not from TFJW / the member "fjtoth" has made a confusion / the letter is from an ex member of tfjw
a few years ago the leadership of tfjw have informed their members officially, through an "Informator" that that person (the autor of the letter) "is doing the Devil's work" and "manifesting the Devil's spirit" and that the "brothers" should avoid any contact with him. This does resemble with others practice...
wt
i received this strange e-mail from romania.
to worship god in spirit , it means to have the understanding of his word , in spirit .
what is the truth ?
From time in time I remember the content of this letter...
essentially, the jw position regarding the end of the gentile times and the significance of 1914 revolve around a principal element, namely, that the "great war" (ww1) was an indication of the anger of the dragon, i.e satan, after being cast out of heaven per revelation 12:7-9 and the start of the sign of the last days.
this has always been a sticky point for the organization....why?.
because, based on their chronology, the gentile times ended in october 3/4 of 1914 with the last days commencing from that point on.
After studying the Bible I came to see/realize that God have ever known that He wrote regarding ancient events in an “hidden way” (Proverbs 25:2 ),
and so, He didn’t command to his worshipers to find the real/exact chronological data of events of human history (or about its empires and states from Adam until today)
in case He would command this , knowing how difficult is to come to a conclusion in chronology and how much time it requires , then God’s worshipers would be called “historians” not “Christians”
But now , a certain “chronology” still exist , and God does invite us to understand it , even in order to “know the judgement”
Ecclesiastes 8:
5. "Whoso keepeth the commandment shall know no evil thing;
>> and a wise man’s heart discerneth time and judgment" <<
Yes , it is a good thing to know the time of God’s judgement !
here are Jesus words / Luke 19:
41. And when he drew nigh, he saw the city and wept over it,
42. saying, If thou hadst known in this day, even thou, the things which belong unto peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
43. For the days shall come upon thee, when thine enemies shall cast up a bank about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
44. and shall dash thee to the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another;
>> because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.<<
here we are able to see that is a good thing to be able to recognize the time of our “visitation” >> that implies a little but necessary knowledge of “chronology”
But, what (kind of) chronology ?
The chronology God requires from us to search for, is part of prophecies regarding “God’s people during the latter days”, as He said to Daniel
chapter 10
14. Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall
– thy people
– in the latter days; for the vision is yet for many days:
It follows that the chronology God is requiring from us/His worshipers to search for, is in fact
THE CHRONOLOGY of "THE LATTER DAYS" !
Here is a research on the “latter days chronology”, as I was able to put it in english:
i want to ride in this .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k_v5kzsur3w#!.
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Je suis contempt travailler avec cette train (not necessarily a Maglev)
question to you intelligent jws and exjws.. does the wt, through its knowledge book or whatever, make sure new recruits know who the scarlet coloured wild beast is or disgusting thing is (ie, the un), who is part of the great harlot etc before becoming full blown jws?.
like should new recruits know this off by heart thanks to the rote teaching?.
hawk
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