Posts by wantingtruth

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Who and Where are the Chosen Ones?

by wannabe in

who, and where, are the chosen ones?.

" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.

{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!

wantingtruth

wannabe, you said :

The devil would just love to be able to induce the Chosen Ones to participate in the World-Wide preaching activity of Jehovah's Witnesses; but there's not the remotest possibility of that ever happening, because they would know that, that is the work of a false prophet, designed to mislead the entire inhabited earth.

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the preaching work did begin in 1922 , the "name" of "Jehovah's witnesses" was adopted in 1931 ...

NOW , the question is , would you say that no "Chosen One" was involved in this group of people , and from what year they should NOT be there , 1922 or 1931 ?

if you were living in that period - 1922 or 1931 - being so faithful as you are today , would you have been in or out of that group of Christians ?

-- I am waiting a sincere answer !

sorry if I cannot be more explicite in this language ...

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In Remembrance of Raymond Victor Franz

by snowbird in

my thoughts on ray franz.

living down here in the backwoods of alabama, we were privy to very little of what was going on in wt world.

most of us never heard about the shake-up at headquarters during the 80's.

wantingtruth

I am of a few words

I trust in YHWH and His SON

and I know His declaration is worthy to be believed :

Psalm 116

15. Precious in the sight of the LORD
Is the death of His godly ones.

I don't end my words here with "rest in peace" , because I want him to rest as short as possible , and then ,

to be raised in God's Kingdom , with the purpose to "Live in peace , forever ! "

I know he/Ray was a man of peace

Matt 5 :

9. "Blessed are the peacemakers , for they shall be called sons of God" .

I want he / Ray to be my neighbor there .

wantingtruth

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Time to lift up the Son of Man!

by wannabe in

" {john 3:15 nwt}.

" {john 17:4 nwt} there's more yet!.

" {john 16:33 nwt}.

wantingtruth

All I can say is, I try to do the best I can. Can I expect to please everbody? Maybe I come across sounding like the Governing Body, but when you yourself feel you know something are you not going to display a positive attitude about what you feel you know? If you come across sounding that you yourself doubt what you're saying, why bother trying to convince anyone else of what you yourself are not sure of? I know my articles are far too long, and I myself don't like that; but maybe in time, as I progress with this, I'll learn how to get things said without writing a Book about it, as I do now. If you are a skilled writer, share some of your knowledge with me, and show me how you would edit my post down to get it all said. but in fewer words. I never made it through grade school, so didn't learn as much as I should have. When I first started out with this I never believed I'd end up having to apologize to people for trying to help them, because they felt I didn't meet their standards. I do my best! I'll keep on trying to do my best. Maybe at some point in time, I'll be up there with all of you, at your level of learning.Then just maybe my writings will be acceptable to all of you. The question is: Would they be even then? Wannabe

words of encouragement (for you) from Brother Paul :

15. Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.

brotherly greetings,

wantingtruth

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Who supplied the food at the proper time?

by wannabe in

" {galatians 4:25,25 nwt} our means all of the anointed class.. the apostle paul, was, for certain, one of the true anointed class.

" she was the mother of all of the anointed class, according to paul.

the following three scriptures will buttress my point, and definitely show, jehovah's organization, is now a heavenly organization, no visible earthly organization is needed now.

wantingtruth

Wannabe,

I would like to hear from you : Who does say "peace and security" and , eventually, When ?

thank you in advance !

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Religious Christendom's Heavy Blood Guilt!

by wannabe in

religious christendom's heavy blood guilt!.

to pair the word hate with christian, would really be foriegn to the hearer of that combination of words, wouldn't it?

that would certainly be nothing the founder of christianity would be guilty of, would it?

wantingtruth

What does the Religious Christendom means to you ?

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How do you FOR SURE jw's Do not have the truth?

by whatistruth in

jw
friends

i personally believe they do not, but what solid evidence can you provide me so i can try to convince others?.

wantingtruth

It is written "the truth ... came through Jesus"

then , let's compare -- when does Jesus says his Kingdom starts in Heavens ?

and ... (if you remember..) -- whend does the Jw's say Jesus started reigning in Heavens ?

the answer will say if the Jw's have "all truth"

wantingtruth

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Real Peace and Security-When? Outline !!!

by yknot in

a wonderful darling man was so kind as to anonymously pm this to be shared with the board...... consider it 'food at the proper time'.

kudos for anony-brother.

for actual outline.... http://www.sendspace.com/file/o58i6h.

wantingtruth

********** When They Are Saying "Peace and Security!" ********************

where is to happen/take place this event ? in the world , or within God's people ?

Jesus brought something new (from His and ours Father ) : the knowledge of the Father's purpose and will :
to HAVE worshippers "with spirit and with truth"

a worshipper "with spirit" is that one who observe strictly the will of the Father in each action , because the Father is the Spirit

Father has commanded us to obey His Son :"This is my beloved Son, Listen to Him !"

And the Son said : "Your word is TRUTH "

Jesus knew Father's clearly expressed "will" regarding the time and the frame of "end-time prophecies" ,
as it were declared to Daniel ( cpt 10 )
14. "Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen
-- to your people
-- in the latter days,
for the vision pertains to the days yet future."

So, it is very clear , Jesus conformed Himself to Father's will , and everything he preached from old prophecies , He put it in relations with "God's people" !

His apostles followed Him in this way , because this means to "abidel" or to "remain" in the Teaching of Christ !

The only way to HAVE BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON !

2 John
9. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God;
the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.

WHEN apostle Paul wrote the inspired words in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 , he surely knew Father's will toward Jesus' followers , and acted accordingly !

SO , the cry "Peace and security" MUST HAVE ITS FULFILMENT >>within<< God's people , at the end of the "latter days"

WHO are THEY who cry "peace and security" ?

They are some who " had been of us ... but they were not really of us" !

1 John 2
19. They went out from us, but they were not really of us;
for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us;
but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.

Who are "of us" the apostle John is speaking about here ?

.."of us" are the anointed brothers of Christ , the co-followers with apostle John , who all where "abiding" in the Teaching of Christ !

... and those who "were not really of us" are those called "weeds" , workers of LAWLESSNESS , who "will secretly introduce destructive heresies" ...

2 Peter 2
1. But false prophets also arose among the people (of God ), just as there will also be false teachers among you,
who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them,
bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

SO , these ones who " had been of us ... but they were not really of us" CONSTITUTES themselves in the group called "FALSE PROPHET"

LET us find what was prophecised regarding these "false prophets"
Jeremiah 23
16. Thus says the LORD of hosts,
"Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you
They are leading you into futility;
They speak a vision of their own imagination,
Not from the mouth of the LORD.

17. "They keep saying to those who despise Me,
'The LORD has said, "YOU WILL HAVE PEACE "';
And as for everyone who walks in the stubbornness of his own heart,
They say, 'Calamity will not come upon you.' [YOU WILL HAVE SECURITY]

DO we understand now WHAT the cry "peace and security" IS ?

This CRY come from these prophets JEHOVAH DID NOT SENT THEM !

They are (TODAY) desperately TRYING TO ASSURE >>those believing THE LIE<< (despising Jehovah / walking in the stubbornness of his own heart ) THAT THEY WILL HAVE PEACE AND SECURITY if they will continue to follow the FALSE PROPHETS who set themselves as "god" in God's Temple !

BUT SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IS TO BE INSTANTLY UPON THEM !

wantingtruth

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Which Jerusalem was Luke referring to

by wannabe in

{matthew 24:9,22} revelation 12:17} {hebrews 11:32-40}.

they have been trampled on now for almost six thousand years.

{luke 4:5-8} {revelation 13:1}.

wantingtruth

As for the invislbe presence of Christ in the year 1914 is also out of line with scripture, because reasoning on three scriptures in the Bible, tells us Jesus has been crowned as King ever since his ascension in the first Century. One scripture by itself tells us that. When immediately prior to his ascension he told his Eleven Apostles: "All Authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." {Matthew 28:18} He was telling them that he held that Authority even before he ascended. Think about it for a moment. In what capacity did he hold that Authority in Heaven and on earth? Wasn't it as a crowned King? I'm not saying an ACTIVE RULING KING. I'm saying just holding the title as one, but as yet inactive. Paul at Ephesians 1:15-23 and Philippians 2:5-11 backs that thought up 100 percent. He was to sit at his Fathers right hand until his Father made his enemies a footstool for his feet the Psalm says. My belief is now, he is sitting there a crowned King, just Waiting for his Father to tell him to, "Go subduing in the midst of your enemies." I know it sounds way out in left field, but its really not me saying it; the Bible is saying it if you look at it close enough. {Psalm 110:1,2} {Daniel 12:1} The Christ has been invisibly present ever since the first Century.

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-- As for the invislbe presence of Christ in the year 1914 is also out of line with scripture, == it is true !

--"All Authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." {Matthew 28:18} He was telling them that he held that Authority even before he ascended. Think about it for a moment. In what capacity did he hold that Authority in Heaven and on earth? Wasn't it as a crowned King? I'm not saying an ACTIVE RULING KING. === partially true ! WHY ? we are wrong if consider the Heavens "together" with the earth !

There was NOTHING to stop/restrain Jesus from using all His authority in Heavens as an ACTIVE RULER KING !!

God's declarations in Psalm 110:1,2 and even Psalm 2 DOES REFERRES to the earth, not Heavens !

This truth is also observed if we pay attention to the prayer Jesus taught us :

10. Your kingdom come
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven. / yes , as it was then in Heaven (Jesus ruling using ALL HIS POWER without restrictions ) so to be on earth !

Please , wannabe , attention is required .

Please , compare with this...

wanting...

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Where do we go when we die?

by wannabe in

where do we go when we die?.

there are many very confusing concepts about this subject.

about where we go when we die, and no one i've found to date has really set forth a satisying answer to this question; so i thought i might just employ some of the knowledge i've gained from my own thirty year study of the bible.. where actually would be the most sensible place to begin when dealing with this subject?

wantingtruth

I absolutely agree

dear wannabe ...

friendly,

wanting...

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Who are the Chosen Ones? Where are they now?

by wannabe in

who are the chosen ones?

we know that when jesus gave the sign that would be occurring throughout the period known as the last days, he foretold many false prophets and told us not to believe or follow any one of them.

among these false prophets he foretold one that would resemble so closely the true chosen ones, that they might possibly misdlead even the ones who actually were of that number.

wantingtruth

I am sorry I can't be short and comprehensive in english , but I have tried here .

And "logically" it is following this post .

wantingtruth