on you tube i found recently a man who claims to be both jesus and yahweh and god and christ and he wants to rule the world as foretold that christ would.
here is the link:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gari322z6re.
Oh , Kosonen !
what are you looking for ?
but I think you are worshiping Father "with Spirit and with truth" , and in this case these ones are not so dangerous ...
... as are the ones (false Christs ) sitting on the "seat of Moses" ... within God' people , settled themselves even "as god in the Temple of God" !
These ones represent the real danger for Jesus brothers !
I hope you understand , dear friend .
wantingtruth
i once looked into an old publication in the kingdomhall library and found what russell taught to be babylon the great.
i remember that it was not what the watchtower explains today, the world empire of false religion but it was something else.
but i do not remember the expanation.
Nice to hear again from you, Kosonen !
By the way , have you consolidate your view/understanding regarding who/what is BTG during the "latter days" period of time ? (I said during the latter days , and not all the time from apostles until today )
Christian Greetings , Kosonen
never quit - never give up!it may well be, i put this post on once before, but when did a litle extra encouragement ever hurt anyone?
we need all we can get during these last critical days, don't we?.
how many of us at various stages of our life have not felt like king david, because of our inherited tendency towards sin?
good to hear that from you , wannabe !
who, and where, are the chosen ones?.
" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.
{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!
Seed Sower , welcome here !
may I presume that your "background" in "religion" was not that of Jw's ?
I have listen to some video with a "name" like yours , and I apreciate that "testimony"
you have a p.m. / try to find it
wantingtruth
who, and where, are the chosen ones?.
" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.
{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!
Wannabe , you are not obligated/forced to answer !
I asked that for the sake of truth / people should need to hear it
greetings
who, and where, are the chosen ones?.
" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.
{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!
wannabe , you said :
These chosen Ones will not only know ALL TRUTH they will even come to know what is yet ahead in the future.
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we have the testimony of a Chosen One named apostle Paul who said : ( 1 Cor. 13 )
9. For we know in part and we prophesy in part;
10. but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
11. When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.
12. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.
Wannabe , how do you reconcile your declaration with that of a Chosen One ?
thank you in advance for answer!
who, and where, are the chosen ones?.
" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.
{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!
wannabe, you said :
The devil would just love to be able to induce the Chosen Ones to participate in the World-Wide preaching activity of Jehovah's Witnesses; but there's not the remotest possibility of that ever happening, because they would know that, that is the work of a false prophet, designed to mislead the entire inhabited earth.
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the preaching work did begin in 1922 , the "name" of "Jehovah's witnesses" was adopted in 1931 ...
NOW , the question is , would you say that no "Chosen One" was involved in this group of people , and from what year they should NOT be there , 1922 or 1931 ?
if you were living in that period - 1922 or 1931 - being so faithful as you are today , would you have been in or out of that group of Christians ?
-- I am waiting a sincere answer !
sorry if I cannot be more explicite in this language ...
my thoughts on ray franz.
living down here in the backwoods of alabama, we were privy to very little of what was going on in wt world.
most of us never heard about the shake-up at headquarters during the 80's.
I am of a few words
I trust in YHWH and His SON
and I know His declaration is worthy to be believed :
Psalm 116
15. Precious in the sight of the LORD
Is the death of His godly ones.
I don't end my words here with "rest in peace" , because I want him to rest as short as possible , and then ,
to be raised in God's Kingdom , with the purpose to "Live in peace , forever ! "
I know he/Ray was a man of peace
Matt 5 :
9. "Blessed are the peacemakers , for they shall be called sons of God" .
I want he / Ray to be my neighbor there .
wantingtruth
" {john 3:15 nwt}.
" {john 17:4 nwt} there's more yet!.
" {john 16:33 nwt}.
All I can say is, I try to do the best I can. Can I expect to please everbody? Maybe I come across sounding like the Governing Body, but when you yourself feel you know something are you not going to display a positive attitude about what you feel you know? If you come across sounding that you yourself doubt what you're saying, why bother trying to convince anyone else of what you yourself are not sure of? I know my articles are far too long, and I myself don't like that; but maybe in time, as I progress with this, I'll learn how to get things said without writing a Book about it, as I do now. If you are a skilled writer, share some of your knowledge with me, and show me how you would edit my post down to get it all said. but in fewer words. I never made it through grade school, so didn't learn as much as I should have. When I first started out with this I never believed I'd end up having to apologize to people for trying to help them, because they felt I didn't meet their standards. I do my best! I'll keep on trying to do my best. Maybe at some point in time, I'll be up there with all of you, at your level of learning.Then just maybe my writings will be acceptable to all of you. The question is: Would they be even then? Wannabe
words of encouragement (for you) from Brother Paul :
15. Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.
brotherly greetings,
wantingtruth
" {galatians 4:25,25 nwt} our means all of the anointed class.. the apostle paul, was, for certain, one of the true anointed class.
" she was the mother of all of the anointed class, according to paul.
the following three scriptures will buttress my point, and definitely show, jehovah's organization, is now a heavenly organization, no visible earthly organization is needed now.
Wannabe,
I would like to hear from you : Who does say "peace and security" and , eventually, When ?
thank you in advance !
