Posts by JustHuman14

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Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!

by Witness 007 in

yes instead of striking them dead he decided to flood the entire planet killing every living plant and animal {sorry peta members} which only afew years before he created declaring it "good.

" then he made a "rainbow" as a sign that never again will he destroy every living thing.. wasn't this over the top?.

too bad they forgot the poor unicorns and dinosuars though!.

JustHuman14

Dinos destroyed 65 million years ago, by a comet that was fallen on Earth. Scientists and geologists found the spot of the impact in the Golf of Mexico. The result of this impact was the end of the reptile Era of the Dynosaurus and the rise of the mammals. Without this impact we would have a different future, perhaps without the Evolution of the mammals we wouldn't had the Human Race..

Regarding Noah's flood, it is just a copy of an older Mythical Mesopotamian legend, the Gilgamesh Epic. Indeed we had varioius stories of Floods in human history, Greeks, Egyptians and this is a result of the Ice melting 10,500 years ago, that caused lot of floods. The story of Noah it could be true, since there was a flood in the Mesopotamian area, about 7000 years ago, when Etna volcano explode in Italy and created a tsunami, reaching Mesopotamia region. A region that is about 300 feet bellow sea level, so it can be easily flooded by waters.

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JW replies on my Shunning article

by besty in

i have a google article on shunning -.

http://knol.google.com/k/why-jehovah-s-witnesses-practice-religious-shunning#.

its had almost 15,000 page views :-).

JustHuman14

A typical JW answer. Watchtower has become a self-righteous Organization on the footsteps of Scribes and Pharisees in Jesus days.

On a complete different aproach Jesus was associating with prostitutes, tax collectors, and generally all those that the Pharisees consider them to be Am-Harets as they call them, meaning the people of the dust. Jesus gave emphasys to those people instead of the self righteous religious leaders.

WT is acting like a modern day Pharisee and ignores the fact that Jesus came for our sins. No matter what, no one can be saved, that is why Jesus said that even a bad thought is a sin. That is why through His Grace we are saved, and not by our works.

WT has fallen into a serious intepretation mistake. In the Greek Scriptures we find a different meaning from the WT's explanation. Apostle Paul stated clear: Μ? συναναμοιγν?εστε...the literal translation of this is: not mixing, and it is refering for the Holy Communion, when all Christians are becoming One, are united, through Jesus Blood and Flesh. This was the only time when a serious sinner was not allowed to partake the Holy Communion, and this was how the Early Apostolic Church understood the matter.

The Chruch is a place of spiritual healing, a hospital of the Soul, and not a place of pannishment like WT does.

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New Generation understanding tied to Freddie Franz

by 5thGeneration in

also don't know if this has been mentioned previously.. our speaker yesterday, gb member br.

pierce, tied the overlap theory directly to fred franz's lifetime.. did anyone else catch this?.

evidently (and i'm paraphrasing), anyone anointed after franz's death in 1992 is not of the 'generation'.. 5th.

JustHuman14

so stupid...doesn't make sense any more

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The Truth (as I seen it) according to Jehovah's Witnesses by Gary Busselman

by Dogpatch in

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god is the creator, but since he only created michael,.

and michael created everything else, ("all other things") .

that would seem to make michael the real creator, .

JustHuman14

Nice to remind this article by Garry...Great staff Randy I laugh when I recall all this...

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[LONG] Making a plan to leave... I have no friends :'(

by confliction in

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the title pretty much explains it all... i don't want to go too much into my story (for paranoid fear of identification), but i have been raised in the "truth", and got baptized at a young age- too young to truly understand what i was getting into.

i still live with my parents, and as such don't want to make a move just yet, as it would destroy virtually everything i have left.

as of now though, i see myself leaning towards agnosticism.. here's my short sob story.

JustHuman14

Your story it is very common amongst JW's. There are hundreds of thousands stories like yours. Once you find out the truth about the 'truth', then you cannot stay and pretend.

You can see my previous posts as (justhuman)and you will see that there are people with worst situation like yours. When I left I had a family and children. 10 years have gone and I managed to make a new life, new friends. I was 33 when I left and 39 when I was disfellowshiped.

I enjoy my freedom, and I made my choices regarding religion. So you are young, you are not commited with anyone, you have no children. It is good idea to move into another town, become innactive, make new friends and plan your life according to your will.

I don't suggest you to be disfellowshiped. Like that you will lose all your family bonds. Even if you move to a new town try to avoid to join a JW's congregation. You will save your self from the 'elders' that will call and ask why you don't go to the meetings

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World Cup: New Zealand 1 Slovakia 1

by finallysomepride in

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huge surprise - fantastic.

JustHuman14

Until now I'm not impressed with the world cup games. But hope New Zeland will make it to the next round. I like suprises. France is out, England, Italy, Spain they are close to miss next round. The only team that's doing well is Brazil

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Generation 'New Light' is Actually Working

by zoiks in

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as ridiculous as it seems to me and most of you, the infamous 'generation' update has every jw that i know in a tizzy.

they're all worked up about how 'exciting' it all is.

i just received a letter from my mom (she only communicates through letters now), and she brought it up - how they carefully explained it at the convention, and how it shows that we are so close to the end.. unbelievable.

JustHuman14

I don't think is working. For the rank and file it doesn't matter anymore what the GB says. They have learn to accept blindly whatever comes out from Brooklyn...if the GB changes the 'light' next month still JW's they will be happy with the new explanation...

If the WT was finnancial advisor they would have gone down the drain. Not a single prophecy, not a future event they haven't be able to figure out.

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has anyone looked into Buddhism?

by poor places in

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i've started reading a book called the modern buddhist's bible and i'm liking a lot of things about the religion so far.

of course i don't know much yet, but there seem to be some very good points to buddhism.

one thing i love is the emphasis on "killing" the ego (or whatever you might want to call what buddhists try to do with their egos!).

JustHuman14

I take from Budhism their idea for inner peace and reincarnation...plus Dalai Lama is cool.....

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DC 2010 Release - The Origin of Life and its many misquotes

by Designer Stubble in

looking up all the references is a lot of work - one of the reasons nobody normally verifies these, but trust the writers.

as you will see, the writers are banking on this, but it is not a good thing to trust the wtbts writers.

please find the bibliography worked out for quotes 38-51, covering the heading "what about human evolution".. interesting is that many quotes are from the [u]preface[/u] of books, where the authors honestly explain the difficulties and assumptions related to evolutionary science.. [b]what about human evolution?[/b].

JustHuman14

Great job dude....boy WT are masters in misquoting..

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The official "how did they react to the new light" thread

by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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for those that went to meeting what was the general response to this "new understanding" of "this generation"?

at my hall i don't think anyone really got it or cared.

swallowed hook, line and sinker.

JustHuman14

I was MS back in 1995 when the 'light' came out. I recall at CO's visit(it happened to be few days after the 'light') we had a special meeting for the 'new light'. He told us that we have to persuade our families as leaders of the congregation to understand the new generation explanation. The nucleus of the congregation is the family, so if all family members understand the new light then the entire congregation will know...

For me it was the end of my life in the WT. After this 'change' of understanding in just 4 years I left WT. I don't know what was the reaction of the rank and file today, but as I see from active JW's that post in various forums, there is no reaction at all, just like it was 15 years ago.

I have said few years back(yes I'm of the older members of this forum -Justhuman)that the WT it is a club. In order to be a member of the club and accepted by the other members, you have to follow blindly what comes out from the headquarters. Even if the GB changes every week their understanding in doctrinal matters, still the rank and file will accept it without any questioning. In just 15 years the doctrine of the famous generation changed 4 times!!! In my time I recall that the generation doctrine was SOLID. The generation that it will not pass and would see Armaggedon. Those who were born in 1914 they will be the living evidence of God's promise of a New World. I spend the best years of my life preaching that the generation will not pass way, became pioneer spending 90 hours a month to save the World. What I knew back then it all gone down the drain. And dogmatically speaking WT has nothing in common with the one I grew back in the mid 80's. Whats left it is just promises by the WT leadership that never came true...

George Orwell said: Everything fadded to the mist. The past was erased the erasure was forgotten, the LIE BECAME TRUTH...