Indeed...at the early human societies and religions Woman was the head of the Family and the leader of the community. This started to change just 4000 years ago and changed completely starting with Judaism and the Patriarchs, then moved to Christianity and Islamism. The last ones are the worst, they have turned Woman into an object and not HUMAN
JustHuman14
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Is all religion based on male power?
by ThomasCovenant insomething in the news, i think, about women clergy got me thinking that all religion, particularly in the past, has been based on man's superiority over women.
i, for one, wouldn't want to join any religion in which i was second class to penis less people.. i was after all made in god's image whereas women were not.. .
i can't help but think that religion has been a great force for perpetuating sexual discrimination.. .
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Apparently the WTBS is going high tech to catch Apostates infiltrating the congregations
by gubberningbody inthis video is in german, but you can see a young elder demonstrate how these tempest devices will be deployed to catch any and all online apostate communications which may take place.. the wtbs ss in germany have developed a more compact version with an incredible rf gain which can be deployed in the spines of any publication.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvoaievgrfw.
have they no shame?!!!
fortunately, you've been informed.. the solution is to use one of these faraday cages to engage in online subversive communications.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm_j9al13wg.
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JustHuman14
I don't think that this video is true. WT is not so stupid to mess with privacy law, and specially in EU...Perhaps is just a video from someone who wanted to make a joke involving WT...
Plus, have in mind that there are JW's who are on their way out from the WT, and believe me if they have a slight opportunity to take WT to the court they would do it, and this is an apportunity that you will grap it from the hair.
WT knows that indeed there are many who would like to kick their asses in court, so I don't think they are so stupid to do that, and remember WT is run by lawyers...
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I feel so discourage
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JustHuman14
Hi Desi,
I have been through the same situation like you, but 10 years ago. Unfortunately when children are involved it makes thinks more hard. You can look at my previous posts, as justhuman, to see my situation.
I was MS, all my family JW's and many in 'high' places. My questioning started after the first generation change in 1995. I was really agry about that, since I spend the best years of my creative life(18-27)to be a regular pioneer. I quit school, cause the end was near(mid 80's, with all the mess in Brooklyn).
I quit a career as young and promising musician. Plus I turned down business deals, that years after I realize it was a terrible mistake. In just five years after 1995, I became innactive. I couldn't stand their lies and false promises. After that in order to support my family, I had (and still)work 2-3 jobs, just to get the basic salary. And all that due to WT's FALSE promises.
I was turned to the elders for apostasy 2 times by my wife. The last I decided that I had enough of the crapsh*t and just wanted to leave. As a result I had to end my marriage, since my faithful wife, created lot of turmoil.
You have indeed a very hard tusk. You will have to make your mind what you want to do. Perhaps the best think is to fade at the moment. But in my case I realize that within the WT world there is no real love. As long as you are in the Club and follow the rules, is ok. When you decide that you don't feel to follow that, then your life is messed up.
In my case I just didn't care anymore about their religion. Most importand was my peace on mind, and with clear mind I could plan my future and what is best for my 2 children.
If you need anything just PM
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New evidence 75,000 years ago a Supervolcano caused mass human and animal extinction...but no evidence for a global flood. Why?
by Witness 007 inlake toba indonisia is a huge volcano which four independant groups {volcano, genetic, ocean, climate, scientists} have confimed caused a "bottlekneck in human evolution.
" the ash cloud reached thousands of miles away, and caused a massive ice age, killing 60% of the 60 million people on earth.
it took thousands of years for plant and animal life to return to normal.
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JustHuman14
There is no evidence of Noahs flood, since the flood was a not global. This is a JW's misconception, along with some other Christian fanatic groups. The flood occured 7000 years ago, by a tsunami caused by a volcanic erruption in Italy. Huge waves traveled all the way to Mesopotamia, a place that is about 300 feet below sea level and flooded the area.
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The World Cup Prophet-The famous Octopus & Watchtower
by JustHuman14 inwell as we all now there is a prophet amongst us.
yes i'm talking about the octopus that has prophesied all the football results for the world cup in south africa(we have to wait for the final to see if the prophecy will be fullfiled like the previous ones).. .
after leaving the watchtower, 10 years ago, i finally found something to believe in!!!
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JustHuman14
Well I'm simply amazed. Paul the Octopus prophesied correct ALL of the results. In the Small Final he predicted Germany will win and this what happens.In the final he predicted Spain, and indeed 3 minutes before the end of extra time Spain scores!!!!!!!
I got a message to the GB: GO AND GET PAUL BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES.....
Paul The Octopus predicted ALL of the future events CORRECTLY while the WT NOT EVEN ONE EVENT CAME TRUE....
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Watchtower installs a "Trojan Horse" in their followers and take over their brain
by TastingFreedom ini'm convinced jw's are under sooo much brainwashing and fully indoctrinated that their brains are disabled.
they will never analyze or question any beliefs.
it is all about the emotions, their brains are literally paralyzed.
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JustHuman14
WT has copied succesfully the patern of Big BROTHER in Orwell's 1984. Thought Crime Police was not enough to control the members so they have to creat within the people a mechanism that will block any attempt of critical thinking. WT indeed managed to do that
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example of dumbing down and outright attempts to control thought in new song book
by elderelite ina lovley example from this weeks meeting:.
old song book,.
ssbsong174stayawake,standfirm,growmighty.
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JustHuman14
What a crap dude...They are turning more cultish
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The World Cup Prophet-The famous Octopus & Watchtower
by JustHuman14 inwell as we all now there is a prophet amongst us.
yes i'm talking about the octopus that has prophesied all the football results for the world cup in south africa(we have to wait for the final to see if the prophecy will be fullfiled like the previous ones).. .
after leaving the watchtower, 10 years ago, i finally found something to believe in!!!
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JustHuman14
Well as we all now there is a prophet amongst us. Yes I'm talking about the octopus that has prophesied all the football results for the World Cup in South Africa(we have to wait for the final to see if the prophecy will be fullfiled like the previous ones).
After leaving the Watchtower, 10 years ago, I finally found something to believe in!!! Yes I put my faith to the Octopus, since it NEVER(until now)failed to prophesy a future event. For the first time in my life I have restored my faith due to an Octopus with prophetic abilities...
Well I'm suggesting for the Watchtower to buy that Octopus and bring it to Brooklyn and appoint it as a new member of the Governing Body!!! It will not be hard for them to pass this as a new light to the rank and file. We have the Biblical account of the donkey that spoken with human voice to Balaam. So there you are: THE BIBLICAL PROOVE...
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Deprogramming... yourself.
by confliction inso, the title pretty much explains it.. .
i've come to a pretty definite conclusion for myself as to where i stand, and how i feel about the existence of a deity- let alone the idea that wts has divine backing.. .
my issue is that, being born in, i have lots of subconsciously ingrained phobias and behaviors burned in so deep, i constantly catch myself thinking and reatcting to things the "witness" way- things that don't apply to my life or the way i (want to) live my life anymore.. for example, because of the way i've been raised and indoctrinated, i've grown a serious aversion- you could say almost a literal fear- of worldy people; girls in particular.
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JustHuman14
It is not an easy thing, but take little steps. I was 33 when I had my first doubts. I was born in the WT, my dad was CO,(most of my cousins are Elders, some are serving in Bethel, and others as CO's and my entire family are in the WT, exept me. I'm the blacksheep of the family!!!
First step: QUESTION EVERYTHING...Don't go after group or cult asking them :Are you the truth? There is no absolute truth
Start to replace your jw's friends with 'wordly' friends. There are good people out there that they will love YOU without conditions.
Try to act like a NORMAL HUMAN. If is Christmas and someone gives you wish, reply accordingly. New year, a birthday event, act accordingly
Read books like Crisis Of Conscious, Compating Mind Control, The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, 1984 by George Orwell. You will get a lot of help from this books.
Plus in this forum you will make new friends that they KNOW HOW YOU FEEL AND WHAT YOU ARE AGAINST TO.
I was for 33 years, but I couldn't stay there any more when I realize it was a lie. I might have lost my family, but I haven't regret it for a single minute, because I'M FREE...
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What is your reaction when you see dubs with name badges? Here was mine:
by SnakesInTheTower inone of the things i really like about being out of the cult is that i no longer have to go to those long, boring district conventions.
instead, i can do other things with my new family (fiancee and soon to be step son).
we were out and about sunday, i had taken the day off from work, no point in bothering people with collections on a sunday and a holiday.. we had planned to go to a suburb of st. louis, mo (st. charles) and see some of the vendors on the riverfront in the afternoon and then wait for the fireworks in the evening .
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JustHuman14
Well I haven't wear a badge for the last 10 years since I left. Since I was known to the WT world(MS(with elder's responsibilities), Regular Pioneer, and now I'm marked as an Evil Apostate who left the truth and joined Devil, no one talks to me!!!
There are some young ones or new ones who don't know me, but I don't feel to talk with them. Sometimes I might get offer a mag in the street witnessing, but I politely reject it