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  1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization

  by StandFirm in

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  here is the promised debate.

  the subject is whether or not god has an organization.

  i'll start things simply:.

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  JustHuman14

  ixthis, you have indicated some very nice issues that I wanted to explain regarding Constantine, thanks!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-15-2011 WT Study (NEAR)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 05-15-2011 wt study (march 15, 2011, pages 12-16)(trust god/end near).

  review comments will be headed by comments.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  JustHuman14

  For sure the "End is Near"....Great work Blondie...

  I guess the only "end" that JW's will see it is the end of their life. That's for sure.

  What pathetic article by FDS. Haven't they got tired repeating the same things all over again?
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  1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization

  by StandFirm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the promised debate.

  the subject is whether or not god has an organization.

  i'll start things simply:.

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  JustHuman14

  All East Orthodox Churches are autonomus. We have the Greek Ortodox Church, Romanian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Georgian Orthodox, Antiochian, Syrian, Jerusalim, Cyprus, American, just to name a few of the Orthodox Patriarch Churches around the World.

  All though they are autonomus with their own Archbishop, but all Orthodox Churches are unified under the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, since he is the head of the entire Orthodox Church.

  When I mean the head it has nothing to do with Pope, just to clear this, he is only the Presiding Overseer of the Church
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  Pakistani christian woman sentenced to death

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a report on the tv last night about a pakistani christian woman sentenced to death.

  for blaspheming the prophet ( mohamed i suppose).. she was working in the fields with two muslims.

  it was hot and she had a drink of water.. she offered some to the two muslims but they would not drink from the same cup as a christian.

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  JustHuman14

  Bangalore, I consider my self Christian because I accept the values and teachings of Christ, especially the universal message that He preached: Love your fellow man like yourself.

  What I don't like is religious fanatism and extreme behavior, all in the name of a religion, either is Christian or Muslim.
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  1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization

  by StandFirm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the promised debate.

  the subject is whether or not god has an organization.

  i'll start things simply:.

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  JustHuman14

  The Holy Catholic Apostolic Orthodox Church is the complete name of the East Orthodox Church
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  1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization

  by StandFirm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the promised debate.

  the subject is whether or not god has an organization.

  i'll start things simply:.

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  JustHuman14

  There is a difference between the terms "Divine" and "Divinely Inspired". Not every Book in the Holy Bible is Divine and Divinely Inspired. Nor are all the "Venerable" books "Divine". Orthodox Church make's very careful distinctions in expressions, which is something that Protestants do not perceive, hence their assertion that all the books in the Holy Bible are Divinely Inspired.

  But the Bible does not contain only Divinely Inspired Books.
  The Books of the Bible are referred to in the Canonizing sources either as Divine, or Divinely Inspired, or Canonical (Regulation), or Proposed Reading, or Beneficial, or Venerable, or Canonized. These characterizations are not incidental. Differences do exist, hence, all books do not belong to every category. In the Church of Christ we speak with precision and make very delicate distinctions; we do not resort to coarse distinctions such as "Canonic" (Regulation) and "Deuterocanonic" (Secondary).

  Summarizing the above, we could say that : The Holy Bible contains books ( such as the three Books of the Maccabees ) which are only Venerable, but not Divinely Inspired or Divine or Canonical. The Bible contains books ( such as Judith and Tobit ) which are Canonical, but not Divinely Inspired or Divine. And the Bible also contains Divine books ( such as Solomon's Wisdom ) which are not however Divinely Inspired.

  Below there is a list of a number of important clarifications of the Church's canons that relate to the Canon on the Holy Bible:

  Venerable is a book that Christians have a duty to respect.

  Proposed Reading is a book that can be read by all.

  Church Text is that which can be read in Churches.

  Newcomer Reading is that which is useful for the newly catechized.

  Canonical is that which belongs to a Canon (regulation).

  Canonized refers to those texts that may belong to a canon, but for which the final decision on their selection has not yet been reached, in order to validate the canon.

  Reputable canon is a canon worthy of acceptance.
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  1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization

  by StandFirm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the promised debate.

  the subject is whether or not god has an organization.

  i'll start things simply:.

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  JustHuman14

  Really good points maksym. The problem with the Protestant movement it is they have complete ignorance of the East Orthodox Church. In their effort for reformation in the Roman Catholic Church, they ignored fundamental facts of Christianity and instead of looking at the origins of Christianity they proceed with new ideas. Unfortunately the time of reformation there wasn't East Roman Empire, due to the fall of Constantinople at 1543 A.D by the Othoman Turks and the Orthodox Church was now under the Turks.

  A basic mistake is to ignore the Biblical Canon consisting 76 Books. How come all protestant groups, including JW's, claim that they follow the Bible, but they ignore 10 books from the Old Testament that they are included in the Canon?

  End another important issue. Most of Protestant groups claim that they are only following the Bible, and due to that they are the only ones who are correct in Christian faith. But here comes the big question that they must answer:

  Who gave you the Bible? Or from who did you borrowed the Bible? The answer is clear: From the Orthodox/Catholic Church! So how come they claim that the Apostolic Church turned into apostate Church, but THEY ACCEPT THE BIBLICAL CANON defined by apostate Church around 425 A.D a time that according to them, true Christian faith lasted only 200 years??? Does it make sense? You cannot have the Bible alone with out the Church because it was from the Church that Bible was delivered. Besides we have lot of Church Fathers writings from the first three centuries that the Church accepts them and the Bible is not the only Book that defines Christian faith, but the entire Church. Apostle states this very clearly, in his Epistle to Timothy I, chapter 3:15: "..and if I should be delayed, (I am writing to you) so that you may know how to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the Church of the Living God, the pillar and the basis of the truth."

  After the Schisma occurred at 1080AD as I said previously at my post, the West Roman Church fall into serious mistakes, while the East Roman Church, now named Holy Catholic Orthodox Apostolic Church continued to hold the faith and tradition of the Apostles , along with Apostolic Succession going 2000 years back, something that no protestant group has.

  So the Apostolic Church is always here for last 2000 years and never sized to exist. In fact the Bible that is used at the Orthodox Churches are the Original Greek Texts, because translations can lead into interpretation mistakes (like Catholics and Protestants) and to avoid that they are using the Original Texts that the meaning is clear.

  P.S. Peter was in Rome. For Early Christians the code name for Rome was Babylon due to the pagan
  God's that Romans used to worship.
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  Pakistani christian woman sentenced to death

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a report on the tv last night about a pakistani christian woman sentenced to death.

  for blaspheming the prophet ( mohamed i suppose).. she was working in the fields with two muslims.

  it was hot and she had a drink of water.. she offered some to the two muslims but they would not drink from the same cup as a christian.

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  JustHuman14

  YHWH the Hebrew God, commited genocides, just read the Book of Exodus, Numbers, just to name a few and in Numbers we find at chapter 29-30 that in one case He commands the Israelites to destroy the city that they will invate, kill ALL animals(what did those animals did wrong)kill all males, females(including new born ones) and burn the city.

  At the same book of Numbers we find similar "commandment" from "God" but with a slight change: Kill ALL males-old-young-new borns, kill ALL non virgins-including old women, married women with children, and KEEP the virgins for you...

  Now this is the God of "love" and justice??? Give us a break dude...Imagine this senario: You are 9 year old girl and you see in front of your eyes "God's chosen people" to invate your town, kill your grandfather, grandmother, your father, kill your mother, kill your new born brother, but you and your 7 year old younger sister are taking captives by Israelite soldiers and then, until you are old enough to "married" perhaps the same man who killed your entire family!!! Is this the "God" you believe and you hope that He will bring "justice"...

  Awake up dude, there is no "God" the way you believe, you and many other Christian and Muslim brain washed fanatics. I do believe in a "Creator", and that He created us, He gave us brain to use it and run our lifes. If we humans do not know, or willing to use that brain for our own benifit then we are the ones to blaim.
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  Pakistani christian woman sentenced to death

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a report on the tv last night about a pakistani christian woman sentenced to death.

  for blaspheming the prophet ( mohamed i suppose).. she was working in the fields with two muslims.

  it was hot and she had a drink of water.. she offered some to the two muslims but they would not drink from the same cup as a christian.

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  JustHuman14

  Unfortunately this is the result of religious fanatism and personally I don't like that religion due to their fanatical ways, but most of all they way they treat women.

  For sure if WT was a state religion ex-jw's would have been stoned to death!!!!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-08-2011 WT Study (WORLD'S SPIRIT)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  true christians are at war!

  ) satan.

  11:5) therefore, satan tries to.

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  JustHuman14

  Great staff Blondie...