I was only 7....what I recall is the frenzy that existed among the JW's...The end is just around the corner. most of all I recall 1984...I was teanager, and the end was again just around the corner...
now in my mid 40's, the end is still near...
JustHuman14
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Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN!
by raymond frantz ini attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .it used to be :.
"do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?
now they changed it to :.
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JustHuman14
My conclusion, reading this post are the following:
1. Spirit Directed, means that there is a chance of an intepretation mistake, concerning a Biblical text or prophecy. They have always said that we are only DIRECTED with the Holy Spirit, in order to use that as an excuse for their flip flop doctrines and failed prophecies. So if someone comes and points out that they failed, they could easily say, yes because we are only Spirit Directed!!! Now with the new change, spirit anointed, it means that they have received the Holy Spirit, like the Christians in the First Century and immediately they had the gift to perfom miracles, speak foreign tongues, and to prophecy. With this change, WT is saying to their followers, "listen you guys, we are Spirit Anointed, so don't question us, or mess with us". The reason to proceed with this change is to strengthen their status and power over the rank and file.
2. The second change, Association, has to do with legal issues and mainly with their evil practice of disfellowship. So if someone is kicked out, they can easily claim that he doesn't associate with us anymore, saving their asses from the legal issues that they might occur, if they are an Organization, while Association is just a group of people that they are gathering together and share the same ideas.
Indeed WT is becoming more and more a dangerous Cult, and the leaders of the WT, they are only trying to save their asses from responsibility and any legal actions against them.
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Dionysus/Jesus myths - Which came first?????
by everchangingworld infor those of you who have already done research on this, have you been able to find information that proves jesus was based on dionysus?
do we have proof that any of the following was written prior to 1st century: dionysus turning water into wine, born of a virgin mortal, sent by zeus to save mankind, dead and resurrected (or any of the other parallels).. note: i'm agnostic/atheist, but i'm still curious about the historical details.
was dionysus based on jesus, or is it the other way around????
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JustHuman14
Dionysus goes back at least 1500 years before Christ, and he was the last God to be accepted to be along with other Gods in mount Olympus. He was the God of grapes and wine making, ritual madness and ecstasy, and the founder of the Hellenic theatre. He had his Cult as well, and during the festivities his followers drink wine in order Dionysus will possesed their mind and soul. Although we have the similarities that you mentioned above, there is a huge difference between Dionysus and Christ was moral characteur.
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If There was a Cosmic Pain meter...
by cofty inimagine that it was possible to precisely measure the amount of suffering in the world at any given moment - a cosmic "pain meter".
decide for yourself what the unit of measurement would be.. we can only imagine a fraction of the combined suffering that is being felt right now.
physical pain, emotional despair, grief, desperation, loss, terror and hopelessness.. of course if there is an omniscient god then he knows to the last iota what that theoretical meter would read right now.. the bible contains a number of answers to the question of suffering - ever since the babylonian exile one popular answer has been to blame his nemesis the devil, "we know that we are children of god, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
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JustHuman14
Sure there is a lot of pain in this world we are living, so much suffering, wars, children starve to death, violence. There is no end in that, and we aren't getting better as humans...
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A Mormon becomes a JW in the Feb 2013 Watchtower...
by cedars inglancing through the feb 2013 "public" watchtower edition, an interesting article appears on page 8.. here is the pdf download link.... http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=20130201&output=html&pub=wp&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.
it's interesting how, in the story, the young man's jw aunt and uncle switch him from mormonism to the jw faith using third-party material (the nov 8, 1995 awake!
article), and he ends up becoming a jw after confirming on the official mormon website that the claims in the awake!
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JustHuman14
Boy, from the one crazy, mind control group to another...
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to date JWism has defined my life and i hate that TRUTH
by oompa inand i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
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JustHuman14
A.M. Number, many of us in this forum, including my self, we have been through similar situation. Even I managed to survive my exit, with terrible losses, at the end of the day there is life out here in the real world. If you need anything just PM, look at my posts as well, you will see that I was in the same situation.
My avatar was: justhuman
when they changed the new forum I lost my old, so I created a new one, the existing.
Do not allow this mind control cult to ruin your life...there is a life after the WT
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to date JWism has defined my life and i hate that TRUTH
by oompa inand i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
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JustHuman14
I wish I could see this posting before Oompa, and send you a PM like you did for me when I was going through the same situation. It seems that not everyone has the strength to cope with mental issues that created from WT after leaving the mind destructive cult.
I guess I have managed to overcome WT and that's why I wasn't visiting the forum like I used to, 11 years ago. I only wish that I did that, you never know...
Rest in Peace my friend, you will be missed...
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non believers what if your wrong ?
by unstopableravens ini do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
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JustHuman14
I do believe that there is a Creator. Now what I find hard to accept, is that this Creator will destroyed, or send to hell and torture a person for internity. I mean there thousands religions in the world, can any one tells me who holds the truth? I will need to spend my lifetime, searching who holds the truth. For sure creator is the ultimate expression of love and no matter what He will show forgiveness...
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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JustHuman14
I think I will post the encouraged words he send me...he was so upbuilding..
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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JustHuman14
Can't stop crying...I'm reading the messages that he send me...he was such a nice and carring guy and he seemed strong. Two of my best friends killed themselves, due to WT...now another one was added on the list....I just hate WT...