Posts by JustHuman14

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Charles T Russell -a freemason and the connection to the illuminati...

by dolphman in

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ok, i'm not one for conspiracy theories but lately i've uncovered some interesting facts that i think warrant some attention.. first of all, russell was a freemason.

all the early watchtower and books he authored have freemason symbology and art throughout them.

not a big deal i thought, until i read more about freemasons and the so-called "illuminati", a group of 13 families that supposedly control the world.. supposedly these 13 families, such as the duponts, mcdonalds, kennedys, .

JustHuman14

Pyramidology is a form of Occult and Russell was deep into that

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

JustHuman14

Flippeeeer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How are you my old friend,,, good to see one of the old ones!

I always liked your advice. Good to see that you are still around. Well you know my story very well, this time is going to be my way...and I do have lot of excuses this time under my sleeve. My work that requires long trips and flying at least once a month, working on Sundays as well. I don't feel that they will dominate me this time, I have learned my lesson well and the game

I will send you a PM

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Charles T Russell -a freemason and the connection to the illuminati...

by dolphman in

jw
friends

ok, i'm not one for conspiracy theories but lately i've uncovered some interesting facts that i think warrant some attention.. first of all, russell was a freemason.

all the early watchtower and books he authored have freemason symbology and art throughout them.

not a big deal i thought, until i read more about freemasons and the so-called "illuminati", a group of 13 families that supposedly control the world.. supposedly these 13 families, such as the duponts, mcdonalds, kennedys, .

JustHuman14

Well, lets put it this way since I do have many of Russell's and Booze Jo's original books.

Is not quite clear that he was a Freemason, but from the public talks he gave he seemes to like them. OK I agree that he was using all the Masonic symbols, he was deep into the Occult and Pyramidology but still there isn't any real solid evidence that he was member of the Freemasons.

For me is enough the fact that he was deeply involved into the Occult and this obvious by the early WT teachings that he was responsible. If he was a Freemason is something we will never be able to find out

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

JustHuman14

Hi Scratchme1010,

There many of you that I don't know, since I'm from the old ones in this forum. Well, I will try give you some more light in regards with my situation and the reason that I went back. For sure I don't believe that WT represents God on Earth, in fact I don't believe the in Bible anymore, specially the Old Testament, What I kept are just the Teachings of Jesus Christ, that I find them Universal.

In regards with my believes most of my family members know them, and personally I don't discuss with them any religion related matter. My brothers and parents didn't shun me at all. Don't forget the Greek families have strong bonds and WT can't really impose their shunning policy on them.

The reason I went back it was of my son who is not living with me, he is young at age and because of the WT brainwashing by the other grandparents (the one is Elder) I decided to go back because of him and to have easier access.

That was the only reason, and I'm working on the fade out process. I knew from the very start what I was going to do but I guess, still is hard, despite the fact I knew what it would be like.

I have missed my first son's wedding and really this was heartbreaking, since I was disfellowhshiped then. Is just you are looking for way to balance things but that is impossible in the WT world,

This time I will fade and that's it

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

JustHuman14

Yes Stan, I'm already reinstated

Giordano, I like your advice. Apparently I'm not living in the same congregation with my parents, I live very very far from them, and yes I speak to no one what I believe. Is dangerous and pointless

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Philosophical implications of Genetic 1:26 and the personality of the Judeo-Christian God.

by doubtfull1799 in

while visiting a still in friend last week we had an interesting discussion on narcissism.

he made a very interesting comment that got me thinking about the above.

we were discussing the nature of celebrity and fame and he mentioned that he would find it very difficult to cope with constant adulation and praise.

JustHuman14

The Old Testament, basically is formed by copying other faiths and Myths from the Mesopotamia region. Specially the Hebrew God and the way he acted shows that is more like a egoistic, Narcissistic, with human behavior instead of Divine.

For instance we have in the early Jewish faith, that Jaweh had a Goddess wife, Ashira. So that's gone now...Basically it was the Old Testament, and all the violence, hate, and rules by a misogynist God that turned me to become agnostic. What kind of God is this when he demands from the supposedly chosen nation to go kill everyone and keep the virgins for themselves(Numbers chapter 31)no difference from what Isis is doing, following the Bible rules!

Or what kind of God demands for woman to be stoned to death because she didn't scream while being raped, or if she screams then she can married the person that raped her, as long as he pays compensation to her father!!! Or when a woman defends her self from a rapist and grabs the testicles of the offender the penalty is to chop her hand off....really give me a f..,.ing break. This is not God.

During the centuries the Catholic/Orthodox Church, they have vanished many other books connected to the Hebrew Bible and mostly the Hellenic Scriptures, since it didn't fit their agenda like the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Maria Magdalene, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Nicodemus, Faith and Wisdom.

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

JustHuman14

Hi Stan,

I was disfellowshiped back in the early 2000's and due to family reasons I have decided to go back(unfortunately)

OnTheWayOut, I'm planning to go with the smooth way, if possible, fade out...

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

JustHuman14

Thanks all for your comments and support. I'm trying to fade out slowly(if possible) I was inactive for 5 years before getting disfellowshiped, and I would have being OK if the other half didn't turned me to JC for apostasy!!! So this time I'm alone, and I will work out on the fading process. They have been some phone calls from the elders, so I'm giving excuses, with work and health issues. Is there a way that I can move to another congregation and somehow during the process will managed not to transfer my file to supposedly new one? I'm just thinking ways and maybe some of you faced similar situation.

When I sit at the meetings I find a nice isolated spot and I read other staff, or message a friend at skype!!!

Really I need to fade out, nicely so I can continue with my life. OK maybe a Memorial or a DA so you demonstrate that you are still there somehow, but to be honest I don't really feel doing even that... Is just so difficult to live in their world.

Even when I go 2 times a month still is hard...specially when they come up with the "new lights" is just insane.

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

JustHuman14

I haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the Org, knowing all about the TATT

Being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all WT's activities, I have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, I found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings. New songs, WT broadcast, videos, internet (so WT now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.

Reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "Truth". I guess being a son of a CO it didn't took quite long to be reinstated.

Few months after that I realize it was a terrible mistake. I just can't live or pretend to live in the WT. Being a JW cost me a lot, giving up a career in the show biz, education and someone that I loved but she was a " Worldly " person. What really irritates me is seeing those elders, who used to give talks against Worldly Education, and used me to give talks about education, and seek a career as pioneer, since the world was just about to witness Armageddon, (it was mid 80's so the Famous Generation was going to see the End) yes those elders have send their children to become, doctors, solicitors, architects and anything that WT used to condemn, while now I'm facing hard times due to my lack of education and because I have followed WT's guidance not to seek glory within the world.

I feel I can't take it anymore living in the WT land and pretend that I'm happy. I see all those JW's who used to turn their back away from me while seeing me walking in the street and pretend that I wasn't there. The ironic part of it, is all those ones, now they invite me for social gatherings.

I'm trying to fade out, and I don't know how I will achieve that. I find it hard to go through the same process, elder's phone calls, shepherding visits, I feel I don't have that strength. I just wanna wright a letter of disassociation and that's it. I thought I could pretend like an actor, but is becoming harder and harder each day.

At the same time I wouldn't like to make sad my elderly mother, since she was so happy when i return back, I'm trying to retain the balance, but I don't think I can make it...

If you are thinking returning to the WT one day my advice is not to do that. The prize is too high,,,,

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to date JWism has defined my life and i hate that TRUTH

by oompa in

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friends

and i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.

but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .

how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?

JustHuman14

Is just so sad recalling this last post by oompa. How many of us recall this person who died because of WT's policy of shunning? It hurts when I read the messages we had exchanged all those years, stored in my inbox...