Posts by iknowall558

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Help deconstructing argument :)

by leo999 in

hi , this is a part of an email sent by my bro to a 'friend ' the ' friend ' needs some help in pulling his arguments apart .

any takers ?

:)) btw , the 'friend' is a pretend bible study , ex catholic :)).

How Many Shoes Do You Own? ( a la Minimus)

by snowbird in

jw
friends

i own 8 (black, burgundy, white).. sylvia.

Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

Hobo Ken

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Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

Mad Sweeney.. There are recordings of my husband and I being questioned by the elders in a 'shepherding' visit. This went all the way to a follow up visit, a confrontation with an elder at the hall and a judicial committe and appeal committe with three COs present along with three other elders. You can find this under HOBOKEN on this forum.

As for the leaflets...Im sure there is a link to the DANGER tract on here somewhere but Im finding it difficult to locate. Will keep trying.

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Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

AJWRB: Watchtower Victims Memorial

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Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

KRETTNAWE......This is nothing to do with spiritual advancement. What is spiritual advancement anyway? Some one else on another thread asked me what the point was in doing what Im doing. This is the answer I gave them.

The reason Im doing this is because I believe prevention is better than cure. My 'Danger' leaflets are for the public. Its to make them aware of the religion that JWs are offering to them. This religion messes up peoples lives. It is Dangerous! People die because of their teachings. It splits up families and it allows paedophiles the freedom to abuse children because of its '2 witness' policy. The people who find JWs at their door only see the suits and smiling faces of these pleasant, polite, god-loving people. They dont know this other side that can bring so much pain on an idividual level.....or the fact that if you wanted to leave, it would be at the cost of losing family and friends and being shunned. People should know all this FIRST and then make a decision.

When I go out and do this I have the 'children' in mind. If 'mum or dad' accepts a bible study, then its inevitable that their children will pulled along with them and indoctrinated with JW teachings...............and we all know the rest. As far as I am concerned it is an extremely worthwhile thing to be doing and I will continue to do it for the foreseeable future. I can only try to shake things a little here on a local level but to me its better than doing nothing.

I would LOVE IT if this religion were to fail. It is obvious, so obvious, that this vile cult/religion cant be from God. If it were, then what kind of God is he? Is this the best he can do .......is this his TRUE RELIGION?

I truly think that to say that God would lead people into a cult..(especially this one) ....would be cruel and twisted on his part.

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Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

Hey fokyc. Another great quote. Thanks for that. I only present them with their own information.....if they want to misconstrue that then they are welcome to. I am guilty of WT 74 and WT 66

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Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

Hi teel. I am careful. I dont do anything illegal at all. They may think what I do is over the top....but how I see it is, that I am not doing anything different from what they do in their ministry. I am always polite....even to them. I smiled at every one of them and said hello....even to the COs, wife when they were working my street. I am female. I am 5'1....hardly a physical threat. As far as them being persecuted........they create their own. If I am persecuting them by exposing their lies.......so what? What other religious group have they not persecuted? I am stopping at one.....they are taking on the whole world.

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Being braver when it matters

by highdose in

jw
friends

i have to declare, i'm a wuss!.

theres so many times when i would love to do something and just havn't got the courage to.

2 examples:.

iknowall558

I used to be shy......ha! Still am a wee bit a times, but if I feel I want to do something and need that extra push....I just ask myself what is the worst thing that can happen here? When I work out what it is , and I feel I can deal with that....then off I go.

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Encouraged by the Org. itself to expose them............

by iknowall558 in

ok...when i left the org, i was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a jw robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor.

then i changed my mind!

not that i started engaging in all of the above....but that i stopped being quiet.

iknowall558

Ok...When I left the org, I was quiet for a while....as you are, trying to get used to not being a JW robot, and trying to show the rest of the congregation and former friends and family, ..(like it matters),..that you are still nice, polite, spiritual......... not engaging in criminal acts, not smoking or taking drugs and not becoming the local slut falling out of pubs and clubs at the weekend in an alcohol induced stupor. Then I changed my mind! Not that I started engaging in all of the above....but that I stopped being quiet. I became angry ! And as the months went by I decided to do something about it and I am now an active apostate.....loud and proud.

I didnt leave alone. If anyone knows about the Glasgow apostasy, they will know there were a few of us who left together and were branded 'dangerous' by the local congregation. (Ninja, Passwordprotected and his wife, Hoboken, myself, my mum, along with another three un-named JWs not on this forum). I have done my best and my worst to expose the org. locally. Ive engaged in numerous leaflet drops to the public and Jws alike, left info on cars at the kingdom hall, written a lengthy and detailed letter to my sons headmistress, explaining why I had to put him into another school due to the fact that he was distraught about seeing me being shunned by all other witness parents and their children on a daily basis. I have also went to local churches and explained the dangers of the JW religion leaving info and website addresses in order for the minister to alert his congregation members. I have sent emails and messages to JWs on facebook to make them aware of all the 'hidden' information of the organization. I have also worked over with the JWs and CO in my own street, asking my neighbours to read my leaflet first before they took anything from them.

Anyway.....this has obviously put their noses out of joint...(as it would). Some are irritated and angry by it. I have been told directly by a sister a week ago that Ive not to make her feel bad for loving Jehovah....(think she read my leaflets). Also was told by a 'sister' on Facebook to 'get to fuck'...(nice). Another sister was wondering why I just wont 'go away'.....and a brother (elder),thinks Im being 'nasty'........Oh I could go on and on.

The point of all this..............? The WTBTS itself encourages this action to be taken on my part.........and if I am ever challenged on it, then I will show any JW why I am continuing in my quest to expose them!

WATCHTOWER 1974 pg 35 - 37

CAN YOU BE TRUE TO GOD, YET HIDE THE FACTS?

What results when a lie goes unchallenged? Does not silence help the lie to pass as truth; to have freer sway to influence many - perhaps to their serious harm?

What happens when misconduct and immorality are allowed to go unexposed and uncondemned? Is this not like covering over an infection without any effort to cure it and keep it from spreading?

When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider to be their friend, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But, does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?

If you are among those seeking to be faithful to God, the issues these questions raise are vital for you today. Why? Because Gods servants in every period of history have had to face up to the challenge these issues present. They have had to expose falsehood and wrongdoing and warn people of danger and deception - not just in a general way, in the interest of pure worship. It would have been easier to keep silent or say only what people want to hear. But faithfulness to God and love of neighbour moved them to speak. They realised that "better" is a revealed reproof than a concealed love. (Prov 27:5)

Do you believe that lies should not go unchallenged?