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  My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes folks.

  over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

  most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.

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  While it is true that WWII was horrendous, likely the war with the biggest impact in terms of sheer numbers, what JWs fail to notice is that it was followed by 70 years--a lifetime--of what historians consider to be one of humanities' most peaceful and prosperous eras, the so-called Pax Americana, in which physical well-being, longevity and personal incomes rose more than any other time, relatively speaking. (Note that this doesn't mean there weren't famines, wars, etc. in a localized or limited scale but in comparison globally to other times. See Max Roser and his fascinating historical graphs.)

  So how what I want to know, from JWs, is how you fit that into the last days signage? I have had this convo with my believing husband and he hems and haws. This fact is, of course, never addressed.
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  I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  well i have to give credit where credit is due.

  it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

  the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

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  I heard that talk, too, and as has been already described, the focus was primarily on parents talking to their children about sex so that the children know what is "approved by Jehovah." In other words, the goal is to educate them as to what is a sin and what is not, so that if they are approached, they know that to engage in sex or touching would be displeasing to Jehovah, the idea being that if the child knows what is right and what is wrong, then they won't go along with whatever an abuser wants to do!

  Okay--so many problems with this. First of all, the implication is that the child has some degree of responsibility, since the child knows what is a sin and what is not, and that there is some degree of control and even complicity on the part of a child if they are assaulted. That is absolutely nonsense and part of the "blame the victim" mentality at which the Society is so adept. This stance is supported by the admonition in the talk about dressing modestly, as if the child is in some way seducing--and again, responsible--for an assault. There was nothing about how a child is a victim and if an assault happens, your child is not to blame, nor was there anything about getting help or going to the police.
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  "Apostate" brother gives talk in Kingdom Hall and gets removed

  by StoneWall in

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  2. friends

  this guy has to have the most courage of anyone i've ever seen or balls the size of basketballs.he actually gives a good talk and has tidbits scattered about throughout his public talk with hints,suggestions,innuendos of the wt organization.i never want to go in another kingdom hall again in my life but would have made an exception just to be in this audience.

  lolnotice what's going on in the audience when they realize somethings up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqqt0y1peuu.

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  This was outstanding--I have to thank Stonewall for posting and the "apostate" brother for doing what he did. Wow--he gave a really excellent talk, truth be told, and he didn't say anything that was really shocking or out there, by any means--and yet they turned off his microphone. Wow.
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  Gas or Electric Stove

  by just fine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am getting new appliances.

  i have decided on black stainless for the finish.

  the house is stubbed for gas and electric for the range.

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  Nice! Looks like gas(?). I'd vote gas--absolutely love it compared to elec.
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  2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

  the dad in this is a total douche.

  i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

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  Yeah, let me just reiterate--the horrorific scene near the end has Gloria aka the "wife of Lot" morphing into stone in a freaky-ghosty way, enough to give any kid a nightmare, seriously. Kind of cool effects but scary as hell (well, to me anyway--I have a very low threshold for anything like that, admittedly). Really weird to have something so horror-genre coming from the Society but hey--scare tactics at their best!
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  What's happening to the Seventh World Power?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
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  in the imagination of many christians (jws included) the biblical texts tell of each succeeding world power winning its position through the power of its armies, on the battlefield.

  even the yhwh/jesus combo is imagined as winning in an enormously destructive battle.. the knorr/franz nomination for the world power no.7 - the anglo/american alliance certainly gained and still maintains its hegemony via its military power.

  its battle fleets armed with the most destructive power in history patrol the world.

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  Oh, this is just great--I say to my husband that maybe the image is actually standing on a pediment, after all, and China is the pediment. Ha! I strongly recommend Fareed Zakaria's excellent book The Post-American World for anyone who still thinks the US is the final world power (not that anyone other than a JW would think so). But Zakaria lays out an impressive array of facts about how other nations, principally China, are catching up at light speed. The Society will eventually have to change their interpretation of the image's meaning and it will likely be something as nonsensical as the overlapping generation.
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  2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

  the dad in this is a total douche.

  i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

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  So I watched this in bits and pieces (all I could take) and--whoa. A few observations. First, special effects have definitely improved, although the acting hasn't. There is a super-creepy section toward the end where Gloria is "remembering the wife of Lot" and let me say--it could be lifted from a horror show. The rise in affluent Asians and their focus on financial success is clearly the impetus for this somewhat hokey movie. Even among JWs, Asian parents emphasize education and career, as I have seen first hand, and so this has not escaped the attention of the GB.

  This movie is designed to make points at multiple levels. There is a scene where Gloria is watching the news and it's a BBC report of an 8.1 magnitude earthquake off of Taiwan, along with a global financial meltdown. It would seem that the Society is still beating that earthquake horse, even though it has been clearly shown to be a falsity. And the global financial meltdown? Um, wasn't that 10 years ago and haven't most major economies recovered?

  I also noticed the old canard of "my workmates (worldly) aren't what they seemed to be..." like non-JWs are all engaged in subterfuge aimed at duping JWs. I have NEVER noticed this (in real life), but this gets repeated all the time in JW mythology.

  So much manipulation, so little authenticity.
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  We are becoming champions of grief. We lost twin B.

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last week we had a reassurance ultrasound with our ob.

  she was just supposed to check heartbeats on the two little ones and they were going strong!

  but because she had extra time and she can be quite anal about her work (which is a good thing) she decided to take some measurements.

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  I'm so sorry. My deepest sympathies to you both.
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  How many in your generation are still JW???

  by Christian Gutierrez in

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  how many in your age group are still jehovahs witnesses?

  from where we are at, there aren't many left.

  each year it gets smaller and smaller haha .

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  I grew up with a pretty zealous bunch and most are still in and not just still in, but uber-active--full-time service. I know, weird, huh? Most did not have kids (a few did). When it comes to my close family, of the three kids in my family, only one is still in, and of my four first cousins, only one is still in. But the two who are still in (one sibling, one cousin) both are regular pioneers and both are female. The ones who left (one sibling, three cousins) are all male. So there's a gender thing there.

  I think being super-zealous when you're young might increase the likelihood that you'll stay with it, only because you have so much to lose and you've given up so much. No education, no kids, no savings. What else do you have but the religion? It's sad.
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  Yes, unfortunately, diversity of belief and opinion is being slowly but surely dismantled. I am no Ann Coulter fan, myself; I disagree with many, if not most, of her main ideas, but to cancel a speech because supposedly violence cannot be controlled sounds like fascism to me. It is for this reason, as well, that I am in disagreement with JWs ban in Russia. When diverse voices are silenced because they differ from the mainstream, you can expect that a free press will be next. Free speech, freedom of association and freedom of religion aren't to protect what the majority happen to say/do/believe but the groups with whom we disagree.