Posts by Cadellin

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Special Talks now via video

by AverageJoe1 in

tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

Cadellin

Pixel nailed it. Everyone watch the screen. Remember "keep your eyes on the prize"? Now it's "keep your eyes on the screen"! It's the ultimate way to control the message, to ensure that everyone hears exactly the same thing in the same way. The organization has ALWAYS been about information control.

But I feel sorry for the audience (well, more than usual). Why? Watching someone talk on a screen, a pre-recorded video, is WAY more boring than a live person (even when that live person is pretty boring). A live person can often react to what is happening in the room. In particular, a good speaker makes eye contact, comments on ambient conditions, makes little jokes, and gives the impression that he is speaking right to you. The best talks were like that. But no more, apparently. Now you just have Big Brother hammering at you from the screen. Yuck.

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Field Service By Atheists

by EverApostate in

good morning everyone,.

came across a very funny yet sensible poster on field service and wanted to share.

most of us would have done field service once upon a time and this poster would really make us laugh..

Cadellin

That's hilarious. Thanks for giving me a laugh!

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Funniest or strangest thing to happen to you when knocking on a door

by usualusername1 in

jw
friends

what is the funniest or strangest thing to happen to you or your partner when knocking on doors?.

mine was seeing a greenhouse with mannequins inside.

scary...paul.

Cadellin

I was about 10 or 11 and the best darn little JW you ever saw. Anyway, we were doing rurals (parents, me, younger sister) and I was sent to the door with my sister. My parents were in the car, in the driveway. I knocked on the door and a man with a very bad hare lip came to the door. I gave my best mag presentation but he was not interested--poor guy could barely get the words out. I went back to the car but apparently, my mother was not paying attention, because she rolled down her window and said, "There he is! Go talk to him!" She didn't see me bomb out the first time! So, good little JW girl that I was, I went back and gave my presentation all over again. Boy, was he mad! He yelled at me and I trudged back to the car, totally confused.

I still laugh about how angry the guy was. My mom, to be fair, felt terrible when I asked her why I had to go back a second time. That said, at least I got to count an RV.

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What is the watchtower going to do when

by pepperheart in

what is the watchtower going to do when the money runs out ??

?.

Cadellin

Demographics are against them. The average age of JWs, at least in the US, is middle-aged or older. This is not a religion in which young wage earners predominate. Older JWs have very little financially. And while the WTS made a billion plus in selling off Brooklyn real estate, as the saying goes, you can only sell the family silver once. The money is running out, no doubt. Maybe not fast--it will probably take decades--but run out it will.

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Anyone taken the Metropolitan Museum of Art JW tour, "The Woman and Her Offspring"?

by Cadellin in

these are apparently private tours by jws (pios who do it for a "contribution," i believe), who highlight the "historical evidence" for various bible events or prophecies.

there are a variety of themes, but i had a relative just take one on the woman and the seed/offspring (is "offspring" the new word for jws?).

she thought it was the most amazing thing since sliced bread but i was curious if anyone here has taken one and what their take is....

Cadellin

Thanks, pale.emeror and EverApostate. You confirm my suspicions...

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Anyone taken the Metropolitan Museum of Art JW tour, "The Woman and Her Offspring"?

by Cadellin in

these are apparently private tours by jws (pios who do it for a "contribution," i believe), who highlight the "historical evidence" for various bible events or prophecies.

there are a variety of themes, but i had a relative just take one on the woman and the seed/offspring (is "offspring" the new word for jws?).

she thought it was the most amazing thing since sliced bread but i was curious if anyone here has taken one and what their take is....

Cadellin

These are apparently private tours by JWs (pios who do it for a "contribution," I believe), who highlight the "historical evidence" for various Bible events or prophecies. There are a variety of themes, but I had a relative just take one on the Woman and the Seed/Offspring (is "offspring" the new word for JWs?). She thought it was the most amazing thing since sliced bread but I was curious if anyone here has taken one and what their take is...

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Reject WT Thinking - November 2017 WT article commented (p. 20)

by Master_Bob in

i really liked this kind of articles when back in borg, because they address the issues i was most concerned about.

or at least i thought that they address, because they don't.

i marked all the deceptive techniques and logical manipulations they use as a mental exercise and would like to share with you.

Cadellin

Yes, thank you for your analysis. I skimmed the article and it is as shallow as a wading pool, making an attempt at some kind of analysis but instead of offering reasons for why an idea should be rejected, it offers belief statements. Unfortunately, most JWs will not perceive the difference.

But interesting that the writer is at least aware of the fact that all of these supposed indicators of the end times are decreasing instead of increasing! And equally fascinating is how the writer is still able to wrest the same-old, same-old interpretation from them.

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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama

by purrpurr in

the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.

Cadellin

In next year's sequel, in keeping with the Biblical account, the dad gets drunk and bangs the two daughters so he can produce some good sons that will stay in the truth. Those girls, only good for one thing...

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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention

by UnshackleTheChains in

yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.

Cadellin

While it is true that WWII was horrendous, likely the war with the biggest impact in terms of sheer numbers, what JWs fail to notice is that it was followed by 70 years--a lifetime--of what historians consider to be one of humanities' most peaceful and prosperous eras, the so-called Pax Americana, in which physical well-being, longevity and personal incomes rose more than any other time, relatively speaking. (Note that this doesn't mean there weren't famines, wars, etc. in a localized or limited scale but in comparison globally to other times. See Max Roser and his fascinating historical graphs.)

So how what I want to know, from JWs, is how you fit that into the last days signage? I have had this convo with my believing husband and he hems and haws. This fact is, of course, never addressed.

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

Cadellin

I heard that talk, too, and as has been already described, the focus was primarily on parents talking to their children about sex so that the children know what is "approved by Jehovah." In other words, the goal is to educate them as to what is a sin and what is not, so that if they are approached, they know that to engage in sex or touching would be displeasing to Jehovah, the idea being that if the child knows what is right and what is wrong, then they won't go along with whatever an abuser wants to do!

Okay--so many problems with this. First of all, the implication is that the child has some degree of responsibility, since the child knows what is a sin and what is not, and that there is some degree of control and even complicity on the part of a child if they are assaulted. That is absolutely nonsense and part of the "blame the victim" mentality at which the Society is so adept. This stance is supported by the admonition in the talk about dressing modestly, as if the child is in some way seducing--and again, responsible--for an assault. There was nothing about how a child is a victim and if an assault happens, your child is not to blame, nor was there anything about getting help or going to the police.