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  ANOTHER GILEAD STUDENT

  by not sure yet in

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  i've been reading this forum a for some time now.

  since i find myself on a crossroad i decided to start participating.

  i was at gilead in 1980 and remember standing in de elevator alone with ray franz, how just gave us a lecture.

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  AllTimeJeff, yes we certainly are two different generations of Gilead

  But they overlap, right?

  Welcome, notsure, welcome. It's a painful transition to make from being "sure of all things" to being...well, not sure of anything. Your concerns regarding your children are valid, but I don't think you'll take anything away from them by being honest. You sound like an incredibly well-balanced, reasonable and caring person and the love and respect they undoubtedly have for you will likely only grow, particularly since it sounds like you didn't force this religion on them in any harsh or critical way.

  I, too, am a mother with an elder husband and child. My husband is totally aware of the inconsistencies and dishonesty within the teachings of this organization yet chooses to ignore it. My child is caught b/w two worlds, but I've told him that I will never lie to him, I will always be completely honest with him even if its hard to do. So he knows where I stand and is developing a, shall we say--spirit of critical inquiry?
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  How long is a "generation"?

  by cameo-d in

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  there seems to be so much controversy over defining what exactly a 'generation' is.. i have heard it said a generation is 25 years; some claim it is 40 years; and some even say 70 years.. i think the scriptures describe the 70 years as life expectancy, with mightiness 80 years or something like that.. i don't think it is accurate to define the length of generation as the same length of time as life expectancy, but i could be wrong.. .

  anyway, i am wondering if anyone has ever done the math on this scriptural clue:.

  matthew 1:17 so all the generations from abraham to david are fourteen generations; and from david until the carrying away into babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into babylon unto christ are fourteen generations.. if one follows the lineage and a date timeline, would this give more accurately the approximation of a generation?.

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  In Exodus, the Israelites who resisted the encouraging report of Joshua and Caleb and who wanted to return to Egypt were condemned to wander in the wilderness until "they and all their generation" died out, the "they" being those of 20 years and up. How long before "all their generation" died out and the new generation was able to enter the Promised Land? 40 years. Ta-da!

  This fits nicely with some of the other posts here (sorry, I'm terrible w/remembering who posted what), in particular with Jesus' own words in Matt that the generation he was speaking to would not disappear b/f his prophecy re Jerusalem came to fruition. Which, of course, happened about 37 years later--within a standard 40-year generation.
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  "Time Left Reduced."-Bro. Anthony Morris, GB member and Vietnam War veteran.

  by african GB Member in

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  dear friends!.

  anthony morris is a member of the governing body.

  here are some notes from a talk he gave at a special.

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  "This isn't the GB saying this...it's Jehovah saying this."

  Just think about the implication of this. Especially given their success rate when it comes to getting anything right. Yikes.

  You know, it dawned on me yesterday that I very well may be agnostic. I've avoided thinking about this but maybe it's time.
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  Paulapollos

  by minimus in

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  thank you for joining this site.

  your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.

  please tell us more!!!!

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  Thanks, AnnoMaly. Interesting!
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  Since You're In The "World" Now What Types Of Friends Do You Have?

  by minimus in

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  jehovah's witnesses are supposed to be the best friends you could ever have.

  they're supposed to be genuine and loving.. not that you're out of jw friends, what's it like?.

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  I just came back from having breakfast with some of my new friends--and its a Sat morn, too!! LOVE IT!!--and they are incredibly smart, funny, well-travelled and--get this--really good listeners who listen to me without immediately responding, "Oh leave it in Jehovah's hands" or other nonsense...AND they're about 20 years younger than me and take me for who I am. Could I imagine having breakfast with the single 20-somethings in my hall? HA!!!
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  Paulapollos

  by minimus in

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  thank you for joining this site.

  your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.

  please tell us more!!!!

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  What I found jaw-dropping about the WCG video (and admittedly, I didn't watch the whole thing)--Armstrong predicted 1975 too??!!!???? Does anybody here know more about that???? When did he start predicting 1975 and could that have had any effect on the WTS's own prediction?
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  Paulapollos

  by minimus in

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  thank you for joining this site.

  your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.

  please tell us more!!!!

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  Keep in mind that the Knowledge book came out almost 20 years ago...
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  Highdose has wonderful news!

  by highdose in

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  my user name highdose i chose because after leaving the borg i was on a high dose of anti depressants to help me cope.. i'm happy to report that my user name is no longer accurate!

  after many weeks of cutting the dose down i am now off the pills totaly!:).

  such a relief!

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  CONGRATULATIONS!!! That is truly an accomplishment to be proud of!

  Uh...what should we call you now? Let's see...Nodose would work, only it sounds like something you take to stay up all night.

  Anyway, Way to Go!
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  A "new" tablet double dated that refuted the idea of a co-regency between Darius I and Xerxes

  by chasson in

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  i have found by inadvertance a tablet that confirm that there never had a co-regency between darius i and xerxes in a french's website "achemenet.net".. it is important, because i have never seen before a double-dated tablet between this two kings, and rolf furuli, as gerard gertoux a french jw, has tried (in accordance with the book "insight" of the watchtower) to prove a co-regency between the two king in the final goal to have the 20th years of the king artaxerxes in -455. this date is important for the jw's calculation of the prophecy of daniel 9, concerning the 70 weeks.. if there is no co-regency so the reign of artaxerxes has really start in -465 (and note -475 like the jw's theory) and the interpretation of the 70 weeks of daniel by jw is false.. here is the translation in english of this tablet, that carl olof jonnson has provided to me, after i have contacted him concerning this tablet.

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  Thanks for posting. Can you explain how this is double dated and what that means? This looks really interesting but I'm afraid someone is going to have to connect the dots for this mermaid...
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  Crisis of Conscience page 23

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  "the society's vice president, fred franz, was acknowledged as the organization's principal bible scholar.

  on a number of occasions i went to his office to inquire about points.

  to my surprise he frequently directed me to bible commentaries, saying, "why don't you see what adam clarke says, or what cooke says," or, if the subject primarily related to the hebrew scriptures, "what the socino commentaries say.".

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  Butterfly--I made the comment I did (a few days ago) because of all the layoffs at the Brooklyn Bethel, which were primarily ones in their mid thirties to late forties, who had been there for 20 years or so (or less). Why would they be let go? Generally, that's the most productive time in worker's life. Yet Bethel is still bringing in young ones. What's the biggest diff? Health care costs. There's a reason why, when you turn 40, your health insurance premium jumps (a lot, in many cases). You're at the point where you start needing more health care and more serious kinds of care. Bethel self-insures, which means when a 50 year old needs a cancer operation, Bethel pays out of its own pocket. They don't like to do that.

  Admittedly, I have no hard evidence; this is just an observation. But I do know firsthand of a family member (that is, of my family)who was given his walking papers after serious health issues arose, and another one who was diagnosed with a life threatening illness immediately after being let go (after being there 20+ years). He was given some financial help by the Society (but not enough to handle the magnitude of the treatment he needed) and then "strongly encouraged" to go on Medicaid.