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  Yesterday's WT slip up

  by neat blue dog in

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  when the israelites left egypt in 1513 b.c.e., they may have numbered more than three million.

  spanning three or even four generations.

  🤭.

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  A crowd of that size would have been impossible for that time frame. Max Roser (whose site is fascinating) estimates the entire world population at around 72 million and notes that growth was very slow, almost nonexistent, for much of human history. If there really WAS such a crowd leaving Egypt, they would have left a significant footprint in the Moab desert. Say, for example, the mortality rate was just 1% (that is a relatively modern mortality rate and likely would have been higher in ancient times but for the sake of argument...). That means 24,000 people died every year, or 2,000 average per month for forty years (not counting the regular mass wipe-outs by the loving God). Evidence of funeral pyres or other burials and remains would be striking, offering undeniable proof of the WT's assertion. Yet, as others have noted, nothing.

  Sorry, UA, you are right, we are off your point, which is a good one! Still, this was one of the facts that woke me up to the Bible's errancy/exaggeration and the Society's naivete.
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  Why does WT rarely reference creationist scientist?

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in watching the latest video in the series "was it designed?

  " at tv-dot-jw-dot-org, i got to wondering why is it that watchtower hardly references scientist that are creationist.

  i know its only a minority from that group, but there are enough out there for them to reference from.

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  Just watched this. Sidepoint--a woman narrator! Wow. I have never encountered that before, unless it was a narrator for a woman's life story.
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  A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

  by Tallon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

  if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

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  So many interesting experiences here! Thank you everyone for sharing. For my part, I remember being super little--like kindergarten age maybe--and not being able to figure out why women couldn't do everything men could do in the organization. That never left me, and as I grew older, I finally told myself that if God is sovereign and made everything, then he had the right to decide who got to be boss. Of course, that never *really* set well with me but I was a super-pious 20-something pioneer, Bethel commuter, ultra flirt and just too busy have a great time socially to really worry about it (and yes, that is totally possible as a young JW, depending on where you are!). It was one of those things that I just shoved to the back of my mind, where it quieted down but later, started jumping around and waving its arms until I couldn't ignore it any longer.

  When I finally started thinking about it, the whole idea of man being head and woman being obedient, which never made sense to begin with, just became more and more nonsensical. It made me furious to show up for service on a weekday when it would be me and a handful of incredibly mature sisters, one of which would take the group with a scarf on her head but her 10 year old newly baptized son would have to say the prayer. Looking back on it now, it is is actually laughable, it's so crazy.

  What's worse is how it affected me on the job. I'd be in a meeting and notice something or have a good idea but couldn't bring myself to speak up because there was this horrible feeling that one of the men should be the one to say it, or that I would be out of place to bring something to their attention. And then a few minutes later, someone would say the exact same thing I was thinking and be roundly complimented or whatever for their great idea! It's taken me a long time to get over that (which I now have, thank goodness). But the scars are real.
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  Here You Go, Folks! - Leah Remini

  by sparky1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  national television exposure.............. www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-season-3-teaser-.

  https://ew.com/tv/2018/10/17/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-season-3-premiere-.

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  Ha! Just about to post the same link. Interesting!
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  If you're feeling down ... this might cheer you up

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  a us cop ends up arresting a person who describes themselves as a free inhabitant.

  at 4 mins 5 secs: "you're raping me!

  ... this is rape!

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  I have renewed respect for law enforcement. That woman was a nut and he acted with admirable restraint.
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  Have you seen this appalling new Caleb and Sophia video??

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this manipulative new caleb and sophia video has got me so angry!!.

  the level of cultiness has just gone to a whole new level!.

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/make-jehovah-god-happy/.

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  I thought they did make it clear that it was a violent video game, via Caleb's fantasy, and I have to say, as a parent, I can get behind that part of the message--way better for young kids to run around playing ball than be hunched over a screen shooting victims. And teaching kids not to cheat, well, no objection there. But it was all wrapped up in what we can easily identify as that particular brand of JW ideology--higher education is bad, even wanting/dreaming about it is bad and oh yeah--thousands of old men with white beards are watching your every move ALL THE TIME.

  Yikes.
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  2018 JWBroadcasting "Higher education is useless" video CLIP

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sept 2018. https://vimeo.com/288327363.

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  Ironically, it is those "disobedient" JWs who actually went to college and have decent jobs who will be providing the spare rooms and menial jobs that those middle-aged ex-Bethelites will depend on.

  Ha, yes. My still-in elder husband's cong. is chock-a-block full of good JWs who avoided college and now don't have two pennies to rub together (with one or two exceptions). Every month, they run into the red just paying the most meager of operating expenses. He often comments that we are viewed as "rich" (we aren't) simply because our income is higher, we have health insurance, live in a nice house, etc. Why? Because I left thirteen years ago, got higher education AND a decent job. As an elder, he feels compelled to "top up" the congo shortfalls and it is the height of irony that he only has the freedom to do that b/c of his inactive wife's good job in higher ed!!!

  And yes, I do point that out to him. (Sidepoint--makes me ill that even a penny of our household income is going to these bozos, even on the local level, but we have an agreement that we are each free to contribute to personal causes)
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  Awesome, Awesome Report! Wait till you see the end of it!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  beccah hendrickson of wgal comes thru again!

  a fabulous interview with barbara anderson, all the pieces of the puzzle are coming together!

  watch out watchtower!

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  Wow--I mean, WOW. Thank you everyone who posted that and especially Barbara for her courage and determination.
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  JWs Outlawed in Russia

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  they are banned!.

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  I don't agree with JW teaching but freedom of religion and belief is a fundamental human right. The Russian government's accusations are fueled by the Russian Orthodox Church's hatred of Witnesses. Russia is increasingly returning to the days of totalitarianism and oppression. Banning non-conformist, minority or unpopular religions is just one symptom--it is doing other unsavory things as well, such as squelching a free media. For anyone who cares about human rights, this is not a cause for rejoicing. Do you really think Putin will stop at JWs? Oppression of one minority usually means oppression of other minorities is soon to follow (if it has not already).
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  Tonight’s meeting

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this post is for the lurking dub.

  the pimc (physically in, mentally confused) lurker dub.

  the guy who reads the watchtower stuff and scratches his head, sure something is amiss but not sure of what’s really happening.. it may also be of some interest to those curious of the nuts and bolts of watchtower’s methods of scripture twisting.. in tonight’s “digging for spiritual gems: (8 min.

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  Interesting. I think the WT is contradicting itself because, if I remember correctly, hasn't it stated that God has ALWAYS had an organization on earth, in one form or another? So Jesus and his 12 would have been the earthly representation of God's organization on earth at that time, wouldn't they??? Therefore, their answer makes no sense.