Hi Frannie.
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yup...just got here and already jumped in for a few posts....hope yall're all okay...my life's been a little sucky lately, but things are perkin' up....getting the detritus out of my life and takin' a new path where work is concerned....is everyone here an active jw or what?.
frannie b
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the watchtower society owns an airplane ... and it had an incident which was filed with teh faa / ntsb.. .
on june 12, 1995, at 1530 alaska daylight time, a wheel equipped cessna 402b airplane, n710ws, registered to and operated by the watchtower bible organization and tract society, collapsed its nose gear while taxiing back after landing.
the business flight, operating under 14 cfr part 91, departed good news, alaska, and the destination was tuntutuliak, alaska.
ANC95LA077 On June 12, 1995, at 1530 Alaska daylight time, a wheel equipped Cessna 402B airplane, N710WS, registered to and operated by the Watchtower Bible Organization and Tract Society, collapsed its nose gear while taxiing back after landing. The business flight, operating under 14 CFR Part 91, departed Good News, Alaska, and the destination was Tuntutuliak, Alaska. No flight plan was filed and visual meteorological conditions prevailed. The airline transport certificated pilot and the three passengers were not injured and the airplane was substantially damaged.
According to the Director of the Watchtower Bible Organization, who was also a passenger on the airplane, they were taxiing back to the ramp after landing. The runway had just been graded and a small depression in the runway's surface was filled with soft material. The airplane's nose gear rolled into the depression and the nose gear collapsed.
The Director of the Watchtower Bible Organization stated that the soft area on the runway had been marked with yellow cones. He stated that the runway maintenance person told them the cones were removed so the runway surface could be graded. The cones had not been replaced.
There were no NOTAMS (Notice to Airmen) issued. The Alaska Supplement, however, states that runway conditions are not monitored and that a visual inspection is recommended. The supplement states that there are dips and ruts to 4 inches deep.
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nice thread.. "when the world turned blue" by joe samples & lala hathaway.
it just had a big impact on me when i was leaving the watchtower, i still play it now.. "soul 2 soul" keep on moving.
i was playing that a lot at the time so it had an impact on memories.. "havent you heard" patrice rushen.
V.A.S.T - Free.
Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It)
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sounds like that nambla site.. .
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Sounds like that NAMBLA site.
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wouldn't this be a great show, .
dr. phil talks with a member of the family who is shunned by all, then has all the family come out ........ what do you think he would say to them ?????????
I doubt the family would appear anyway.
One sniff of this and the WT would have the elders round saying what a bad idea it would be for them to go on the show etc.
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how many jws are there currently in the wt who want out but are held back by things they feel they can't control?
i hear posters say that if they're still jws then they must believe it.
what about the people whose whole family are jws and don't have any outside friends to turn to or for whatever reason are relying on their jw family for financial help and know that if they expressed doubts they would be cut off no questions asked.
Anglise,
It's Bill. My favourite comedian. :)
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i'm just curious about this, and the prison baptisms---never knew much about it.
thanks in advance.
Just think of all those lovely paedophiles coming into 'the truth'.
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how many jws are there currently in the wt who want out but are held back by things they feel they can't control?
i hear posters say that if they're still jws then they must believe it.
what about the people whose whole family are jws and don't have any outside friends to turn to or for whatever reason are relying on their jw family for financial help and know that if they expressed doubts they would be cut off no questions asked.
Hi,
How many JWs are there currently in the WT who want out but are held back by things they feel they can't control?
I hear posters say that if they're still JWs then they must believe it. What about the people whose whole family are JWs and don't have any outside friends to turn to or for whatever reason are relying on their JW family for financial help and know that if they expressed doubts they would be cut off no questions asked.
Your thoughts?
Ignored One.
http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .
jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.
toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.
http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030723/CPN/20587021&cachetime=15
TORONTO (CP) - A woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the Canadian wing of the Jehovah's Witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.
Vicki Boer, 32, who says she suffered sexual assaults between ages 11 and 14, sought $700,000 from the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Canada and three of its elders in a 1998 civil suit that claimed they were negligent and breached their duty.
A judge awarded her $5,000 in June, but no criminal charges were ever laid in the assault allegations.
"It's really a slap in the face for them to think that I should be paying for costs," Boer said in an interview Wednesday from Fredericton.
"I paid for the abuse, I paid for everything happening, and now they still want me to pay again."
She had previously asked Watch Tower to cover her legal costs, which she estimated Wednesday as $90,000.
Colin Stevenson, the lawyer representing Watch Tower, confirmed Wednesday that the religious group is asking Boer to pay part of its legal costs, but he could not state the amount.
Stevenson said Watch Tower is not being vindictive.
"Watch Tower is not on any vendetta to try to collect costs from Vicki Boer," Stevenson said.
In the civil suit, Boer claimed that rather than immediately notify the Children's Aid Society, elders told her not to seek outside help or report the alleged abuse. She also said they made her confront her father to allow him to repent his sins in accordance with biblical principles.
But Justice Anne Molloy ruled that while Boer was certainly put through a traumatic experience, the church was ultimately not responsible for all of her pain and suffering.
Molloy cleared the three elders of wrongdoing, but ruled that the church pay Boer $5,000 because one of its elders - who was not named in the suit - talked her into the confrontation with her father, which was an inaccurate application of their faith.
Molloy ruled the church never told Boer not to seek medical help, nor was she told the alleged abuse should not have been reported.
While victims of sexual abuse normally aren't identified in public, Boer agreed to allow her name to be publicized as part of her effort to promote what she has alleged was abuse within the confines of the church's congregations.
fathers touch the film.
this 3 minute and 30 second short film will explore the haunting images found within donald dhaenes writing.
telling a complete story in flashbacks, real time images, and real time action.. .
This is great news.
What about the Sundance festival?
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