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  What would you ask Satan?

  by frigginconfused in

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  if you could send in questions to the news media for an interview with the devil what would you ask him?

  no sarcasm please.

  this is meant to be a serious topic..

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  Why did you let the Catholic Church set which books got put into the Bible ..............oh sorry that was God was'nt it?
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  what`s the most embarrassing thing that happend to you as a jw?

  by Adrianoblue in

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  once two brothers convinced me to pop up at a wedding, just to gratulate them.

  i bumbed into the 2 brother just by coincidence on the street.

  i was wearing a leather biker jacket and tracksuit pants.

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  1 :Had the book study in my home ,was asked to open the meeting in prayer , stood up did prayer , opened my eyes to see my bright red underware through my fully open fly for all to see - and they did!

  2 : At another book study ,gave prayer ,sat down, farted and then proceeded to blow snot out my nose when I tried to restrain my laughter _ I'm still dying over that one !

  3; Again at a book study ,this time reading the Live forever book , at the the part where it said that Jehovah has no "head" ,I just burst out laughing and could'nt stop - had to leave the room for the rest of the meeting!
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  Circle or Sphere ?

  by wozza in

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  jw's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the circle of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.. i wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,.

  or if they meant a sphere .

  surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .. if that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the wts teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago?

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  wozza

  fascinating stuff.

  The trouble I had as a JW with this scripture was whether the hebrew words were different and they are (thanks Leolaia)

  I put my self back in time and consider what a person would see standing on a high mountain ,say , with plains all about and observe what the horizon looks like - the same as today - a circular horizon line returning on both sides to behind me.

  This to me says the scripture in the the bible is only an observation of a ordinary man rather than an inspired by god statement which is penned by this man for future generations to go "ooooh aaaaah this really is evidence that the bible is from god .

  I'm not trying to attack the beliefs of anyone here but just reason on what has been pushed by the WTS as evidence of god and that they are his representatives ,when really one has to look at the text ,question it and ask if the WTS is wrong on this ,how many other things are they teaching are wrong? Keeping in mind that their "circle of the earth teaching is always used when studying with new people to impress upon them that they are finally finding "the truth " of life from the WTS.
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  Circle or Sphere ?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
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  jw's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the circle of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.. i wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,.

  or if they meant a sphere .

  surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .. if that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the wts teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago?

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  I only thought of this while reading another post ,actually when I was in I had my niggling doubts on this topic but it's funny how when you're a JW ,the brain is trained to discount reasoning on things as a dangerous thing.
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  Circle or Sphere ?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
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  jw's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the circle of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.. i wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,.

  or if they meant a sphere .

  surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .. if that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the wts teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago?

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  wozza

  JW's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the CIRCLE of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.

  I wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,

  OR if they meant a SPHERE . Surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .

  If that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the WTS teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago? Are they are no different then than the Catholic church in the days of Galileo refuting his observation ,and continued to do so after his death.
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  Evidence that God hates cats

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  i, for one, sensed that cats were from the devil ever since that demon-cat, toonces, was shown driving an automobile on live tv.. (orange feline, 2/3 of the way down on the right side, getting his.).

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  Oops sorry .....suppose I better say something now ,the trigger fingeralways gets twitchy when I think of cats.

  Used to love teasing the sisters that were cat lovers by saying that the cat was the only creature that Satan was allowed to create. God sometimes I could just make the one here vanish if I had some of those apostate demonz powers
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  Evidence that God hates cats

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  i, for one, sensed that cats were from the devil ever since that demon-cat, toonces, was shown driving an automobile on live tv.. (orange feline, 2/3 of the way down on the right side, getting his.).

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  If the bible is god's handbook for man, why is it such gobbledegook?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  i don't mean the basic moral code of behavior (that many non biblical lands also just happen to have) that people use to model their lives, but the 'deeper' stuff.... assuming that god has had his divine plan for vindicating himself etc ever since he figured that adam may screw up, and he needed to let faithful mankind know the 'plan' and how to survive it all.... why is the important stuff all gobbledegook?.

  the time frame, prophecy, signs and so on are all so obscure that even the cleverest theologians can't understand it or agree on it.

  the 'truth' is so muddled and juggled up that every understanding can be logically challenged with an equally challengable one.

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  Hello Oz - on KI now ex southern vales and worn out from exposing the proliferation of pedophiles there ,happy where I am though and ready for when they come a knocking.

  TEC - when is smugness not false? I'm sure theres plenty of christians who feel sincere about what they believe or feel , but like many of us that were JW's we felt the same but that did not make our sincerity truthful did it?

  When Ozzie oz asks his question I feel he is looking for a truthful and factual answer to all mankind .

  After all because the bible seems so full of gobbledegook that is why there are so many explanations , after all christians can't even agree on the essence of who god is !
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  If the bible is god's handbook for man, why is it such gobbledegook?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  2. bible

  i don't mean the basic moral code of behavior (that many non biblical lands also just happen to have) that people use to model their lives, but the 'deeper' stuff.... assuming that god has had his divine plan for vindicating himself etc ever since he figured that adam may screw up, and he needed to let faithful mankind know the 'plan' and how to survive it all.... why is the important stuff all gobbledegook?.

  the time frame, prophecy, signs and so on are all so obscure that even the cleverest theologians can't understand it or agree on it.

  the 'truth' is so muddled and juggled up that every understanding can be logically challenged with an equally challengable one.

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  Hi Ozzie Oz hope you survived the storm we're having ,and maybe we can meet one day.

  I think Terry's post was excellent in that, point by point he establishes in my mind a case for showing that christians like Chalam have no case for boasting in their faith ,and their "blessed" priveleged and almost smug "gift" of the holy spirit they claim to ask for and be given .

  Taking into account Terry's points one by one , and I can only conclude that over time there would eventually grow a multitude of faithful people who would claim god or Jesus or both blesses them , but over that time we would actually observe what we see today - a multitude of self proclaimed christians who say the holy spirit had revealed christ to them .

  But the problem is with Chalam and others like Stephen is they have collected themselves into pockets of belief in their formula and contradict each others teachings yet claim the same leader and blessings ,how can this be ?

  As pointed out we have ,what ,66 books as the canon ,other writings that some say should be included in the canon are classed as apochrypha?

  And who decided on the 66? was it not the beginnings of the Catholic church in the 4th century ......is it then ok for protestants today to accept the findings of the catholic church back then ? We still have no harmony in a lot of belief areas as far as scripture is concerned let alone correct teaching which the holy spirit is supposed to be guiding.

  In a nutshell do we have one true god ,and yet massive dis-harmony of teaching ?

  Is there any wonder Ozzie Oz asks his question?

  No Blessings but open mindedness

  Stephen
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  What Stupid Things Were You Counseled For?

  by minimus in

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  i've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".

  the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .

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  A part on the service meeting that was to be 20 min long ,but because a brother before me went grossly overtime I had to trim my talk to about 13 minutes ,then this nasty elder that followed me tore strips off me for encroaching on his weeny little 5 minute talk.

  They can be so "human" at times these "princes"