Posts by wozza

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I cringe when I think about the talks I gave.

by James Mixon in

you brothers who gave talks do you thinks about the crap you spoke from the platform.. thirty years old, no knowledge what so ever of the world we live in, barely making the grade.

to graduate from high school, a year and half in jc college and now with schooling of jw higher.

education i thought i was a hell of a speaker.

wozza

As I started out giving talks I would follow the outline to the letter not thinking too much about what I was actually saying or citing because of nerves .

Over time I got better and eventually started to hear myself speak ,less nerves .

Then confidence started to appear and I would start to speak "extemperaniously" as they say.

In time I found it harder and harder to speak the outline without thinking that this or that point was pretty lame ,and then include my stuff I wanted to get across. But in time I found it harder and harder to find material that was honest that fitted in with WTS BS and with the outlines the WTS gave me .

I was glad when I stepped down , my conscience was mine again.

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Letter # 1 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

here is my first letter i posted to the governing body.

i also hope that brothers on the writing committee who may be lurking on this site (and have some clout) read my letter and bring in change to this very flawed policy around confession of sins.. enjoy.

the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.

wozza

In my years as a JW the problem was that a persons private confession to elders was often leaked by the elders themselves .For instance a young brother I studied with went to the elders depressed about his habit of masturbation ,within a short time it was common knowlege who had a problem with what because an elder used his case as an example to others pointing to a certain young brother in the congo with this problem ,as there were few young single bros it did'nt take long for others to work out who the elder was talking about , and so the gossip mill began.

The other major source of revealing private matters were elders wives , it's not surprising people won't come forward to seek help.

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Wt "study" Participation, is it a "True Believer" Indication?-- or not?

by prologos in

in our congregation, the elders rarely comment.

the majority rarely comment, 2 sisters, vehemently, and often comment.

since in their case, it can not possibly be" teaching in the congregation", is participation in the wt "study"in general an affirmation of faith?

wozza

In my congo years ago one of the pedophile ex elders there used to sing the melodies with a strong powerful voice - did'nt make him to be a better quality believer .

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Loud Fence [s]

by geevee in

hi all, whilst i have been a member of this forum since 2004, i have slowed down in my visits and comments.

i have called in to ask if there has been any discussion on the "loud fence" campaign that is to be seen vividly around our home town of ballarat victoria australia?

there are many catholic institutions around this town that have had ribbons of many colors looped onto their fences in support and acknowledgment of child rape/abuse and also as survivors.

wozza

Sorry I can't see any progress towards helping the abused ,iff you watched the ARC with the Society you may agree with me. If you have had anything to do with Sydney bethel over matters such as these there is only a desert of fellow feeling and decency there with them being in total denial.

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Went for my first legal session today.

by umbertoecho in

the arc are indeed a patient lot who don't pressure.

they make sure a person feels safe.

they don't hold back with legal information either.

wozza

Hi Umber nice to see your post ,I had wondered how you were travelling and it sounds your doing ok ,thats great

There are probably a few in oz like me who have had a bit to do fighting the boys at oz bethel over the years and I find it encouraging to see your posts

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Peace and Security!

by biblexaminer in

watchtower teaches that soon there will be a huge development that will be a sign for jehovah's witnesses!

5:3 the watchtower magazine, principle journal of jehovah's witnesses, writes.... however, just before that day of jehovah begins, world leaders will be saying “peace and security!” this may refer to one event or to a series of events.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20120915/world-end/#?insight[search_id]=2038590d-e4a0-4101-89db-27102bef34ba&insight[search_result_index]=19.

wozza

I remember when the peace and security book was put out in the eightees ,just in time for the International year of Peace in 1986.

There was alot of anticipation amongst the JW's and they were pretty keen to read the "new" book ,the only problem was that this book was a rehash of an earlier 186 page book called the same . When I found this out I noticed the new one was recieved more cooly by the older JW's .as I was the literature servant .

I think I heard one of those pennies drop in the back of my mind back then ......"I wonder if the WTS is just capitilizing on the year of peace?" mmmmm

Oh yeah it became clearer over the years with the ever increasing changes in doctrine and the way the GB carried on ,anyone else notice this back then?

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OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

by Terry in

for me, the dead giveaway is this.

jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

wozza

Some things about the bible just don't make sense do they?

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Are JW's heading for the exit?

by pandorasbox1914 in

are jw's heading for the exit?

after lurking on this site for a year or so i have noticed a number of new poster's including me.

but does this indicate a massive departure for the exit?

wozza

I left some time ago so can't measure whether locally they are leaving ,but I met someone yesterday who I have known for 30 years and had left a few years ago saying she found it too hard to continue with a unbelieving husband and no support from the congregation ,she left the congo and her husband got divorced and ,holy shit, would'nt you know it got married again to an unbeliever and brought him back into the local congo.

She is such a nice person but why would you go back bringing someone else thinking the the judge in the sky will just overlook her indescretion ?

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'Worldly' man looking for a little more understanding...

by Verecocha in

saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.

what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.

there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.

wozza

For some witnesses ,especially born in ones ,it's natural for them to be living double lives , it's probably the way they chose to cope with the rules and regulations and the hum drum of their small lives.

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Evidence of Human Activity in Northern Siberia 45,000 years ago.

by fulltimestudent in

this information makes the biblical dating of human origins a sad joke.

quote: " when they dated the remains, the researchers got another surprise: the mammoth died 45,000 years ago.

that means that humans lived in the arctic more than 10,000 years earlier than scientists believed, according to a new study.

wozza

Thanks for this interesting topic ,always like to hear these new discoveries .

Like the story that came out one time about evidence that quick to the draw second posting people are TROGLODYTE throw backs ,is it true or not mmmmm....