Posts by wozza

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Australian Bethel propose building a media complex

by Listener in

there's a post on exjw reddit stating that the ibsa are planning on building a media operation at the sydney bethel.. the estimated cost is $10 million aud and this in spite of the fact that they still have not joined the redress scheme or attempted in any monetary way of assisting abused victims within the organization.. the link below includes detailed plans.

they will be converting part of the current printery into a media complex.. they also propose to build a theme park in the form of a historical biblical site, including a man made mound and what one person suggests is a temple.. its not surprising that a bunch of old men in new york has dreamed all of this up - film sets in new york, england and now australia.

they are bonkers but it's a novel way of getting money from their followers.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ernz3y/new_media_centre_at_the_australian_sydney_bethel/.compact.

wozza

Does sound like a real estate deal in the end unless they have a new "overlapping generation" in the wings ready to take on Movie World

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Australian Bethel propose building a media complex

by Listener in

there's a post on exjw reddit stating that the ibsa are planning on building a media operation at the sydney bethel.. the estimated cost is $10 million aud and this in spite of the fact that they still have not joined the redress scheme or attempted in any monetary way of assisting abused victims within the organization.. the link below includes detailed plans.

they will be converting part of the current printery into a media complex.. they also propose to build a theme park in the form of a historical biblical site, including a man made mound and what one person suggests is a temple.. its not surprising that a bunch of old men in new york has dreamed all of this up - film sets in new york, england and now australia.

they are bonkers but it's a novel way of getting money from their followers.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ernz3y/new_media_centre_at_the_australian_sydney_bethel/.compact.

wozza

I wonder if they will do what they did years ago ,they manually, with brick saws cut the faces off their pallets of bricks and stuck them to the walls. All that slave labour they used to do that joyless noisy job.

One of my former employees told me he was there for nearly two years doing that sort of crap for an unthankful and oblivious governing body ,what a bunch of monkeys!

Hey here's an idea ,they could cut different coloured bricks and make a mosaic of the governing body as monkeys humping each other in a line with the background music being a lovely clap-along kingdom song!

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The sky is falling- maybe

by joey jojo in

i am actually not a 'sky is falling' guy, but i wanted to comment on the australian bushfires.. you may or may not believe the science behind global warming, however i personally put more faith in verified, scientific data than the words of fat cat, self-serving politicians.

climate science has predicted, based on data, that we will see more prolonged, extreme weather events, higher average temperatures, rising sea levels due to ocean expansion and glacial melting.

and this is exactly whats happening.

wozza

I live about an hours drive from Adelaide South Australia on the coast and just on the good side of 70 years old .

The fires in Australia are unprecedented in my memory and I have lied in many of the areas affected by the massive bushfires and it is saddening to see the vision of the destruction on the media because I remember what it was before.

I choose to live where I live because of the low risk of fire being beachside suburbia. For decades now our population and wealth has grown as a nation and more people have chosen to live in bushfire prone areas ,so that's a risk. more people more chance of fire etc.

Some people believe global warming is a crock of shit and say so here despite apparent evidence .I won't argue with them because they are'nt experts and neither am I .Pointless.

But I will say that in my relatively short life I,ve seen some changes here including temperatures of 46.6 C ,about 118 F which we had to live thru on the coast not in the desert. This happens regularly now compared to decades ago where we would get hot days, but not that high, and with regularity like now.

I guess alot of us can point to the changes wherever we are in the world ,here in Australia the scientists point three major influences to our weather which includes the Indian ocean cooling at present ,the air over the antarctic and the massive burning of fossil fuels.

Like RUBADUB in Florida and his flooding which is unusual local activity alot of us must notice changes to our environment.

We are'nt getting higher seas here that I recall but that does'nt mean climate change is not changing things in some other part of the world causing floods . I am sure if I lived in Greenland I would certainly see and feel the effects of billions of tonnes of ice melting over decades.

Can we say that the fires are totally caused by global warming? Surely I would be an arrogant prick if I could just come out and say that without absolute proof!

I think we just need to be observant and informed and look at this from all angles we can because this is our and our childrens world ,in our lifetimes we.ve seen the results of polluting and mismanagement and why it happens.

In the meantime theres alot of people here who have to restart their lives and they are thankful to still be alive

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Talking Snake

by NoAbuse in

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jehovahs witness yearbook, 1967 p.105: cameroon"on one occasion a large crowd was following a man who had a talking serpent.

the serpent gave greetings and spoke in foreign tongues....a brother was passing by, attracted by the commotion, he went to the house to see what was happening.

as soon as he entered the room the serpent stopped talking.

wozza

O I wonder if there were two reliable witnesses to this event from the brothers?

So it's not OK to believe a Child that has no two witnesses to being molested , but it is OK to try and influence millions of earths people with a story that might not be true!

Now that's Jehovahs Witnesses for you.

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Jesus to rule for 1000 yrs yet he started in 1914?

by krismalone in

i believe when we were in the jw cult, our brains and thoughts were hijacked by the governing body.

i truly believe the gb thinks all members are stupid and they laugh at them in their wednesday morning secret meetings.. one such teaching that i never heard anyone bring out or question yet the absurdity and contradiction is blatantly obvious is: revelation chapter 20 says that christ will reign for 1000 years.

it doesn't say he will reign more than a thousand yrs but only 1000 yrs.

wozza

From memory the WTS created different kingdoms for the different people classes and times ,so the scriptures can be bent a little to suit their agenda.

Jesus had a kingdom after dying with the original christians and in 1914 comes along another crowning and kingdom of 20th century people who he oversees on earth who are refined by him to be heavenly hope people.

But wait, a new president is commissioned (Rutherford) who decides there amongst the people is a second class of people with an earthly hope who will see "millions now living will never die".

So in the Kingdom of 105 years since 1914 Jesus has organized an organization that repeatedly has falsely forecast Armageddon ,seen the millions that were'nt going to die ,actually DIE , and countless false prophecies and reversals of teachings yo-yoing up and down.

What's Jesus been doing? Sounds alot like a group of men totally bumbling along in 105 years ,and surely if Jesus is sitting at the right hand of god ,he is in reach of god to give him a swat on the head to wake him up - it's pathetic.

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Elon Musk, And The CyberTruck That Homer Built

by Simon in

i think tesla and musk have officially jumped the shark.. did you see the "cybertruck" they released?

it's like the car that homer built!.

it has to be the ugliest vehicle ever built.

wozza

It looks like a pregnant Marty McFly car , so angular.

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Advertising and the Melbourne International Convention

by Listener in

they keep confirming that religion is big business.the melbourne international convention is this weekend and i wish all the best to the activists who will be present.i came across this website set up for jws in attendence with comprehensive guides and information.

it's obvious that it has been created by the jws since they write this under the rooming tab.

we are all now free to book accommodation using the recommended lodging list (rll) which is provided on the rooming website!.

wozza

Can't believe this religion has changed so much ,so I agree with MAGNUM . The last convention in Melbourne I went to was in 1988 and this gross reach out to commercialism would not have happened in the past ,it was all focus on spiritual "things " back then.

In fact I think this all reminds me of the whoring the WTS did when it became an NGO of the United Nations. It was for worldly advatage sucking up the UN and now they are are sucking up again to the commercial elements of Melbourne to gain financial advantage!

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Ted Jaracz - the Cardinal Ratzinger of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Dogpatch in

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theodore ("ted") jaracz1925-2010.

about 7:30, june 9, 2010, theodore ("ted") jaracz, one of the members of the governing body ruling over jehovah's witnesses, died.

previously, on may 19, 2009, he had had a serious stroke, but recently seemed to have made a big recovery, giving some assembly talks.

wozza

APieceOfShitNamedTate 6 hours ago

In 1972, the Watchtower Society sent a directive to its Bodies of Elders saying they need not delete as fellow elders those who confessed to having committed pedophilia provided "several years" (later defined to 2-3 years) had passed and they appeared to still be enjoying "Jehovah's blessing," meaning their pedophilia had not become widely known beyond the other elders of the Watchtower Society.

Is there a copy of this directive anywhere online?

I don't have exactly what you ask for but the following scans of a British Bethel letter show the attitude and policies of the WTS toward pedo elders etc in the early 2000's

Hope this helps in some way

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Boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates

by pale.emperor in

now i think i may have seen everything.. "boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates".

i'm all for people being entitled to wear what they want and live as they please as long as they're not harming anyone but - a male prom queen?

maybe there wasn't much competition in his school?.

wozza

Speaking of deceit I wonder how many people are alive that are born thinking their daddy is genetically theirs when they are not. Daddy does'nt even know that ! And when the relationship breaks up the men are left to pay for a child that was never theirs.

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Why do CO's refuse to strip Elders of their position?

by Tenacious in

in several congregations i attended many elders were downright evil and flat out drunk with power.. many times i personally knew of things done by them that would have been a disfellowshipping offense had they not been elders.

and even though many times these issues and spiritual atrocities were reported to the co's and hq they would many times (if not all the time), get off with a mere slap on the wrist or a forced apology.. why do you believe elders are so protected?.

my theory is the authority integrity within the congregation.

wozza

This type of thing is human behaviour ,just the same in , say, the working environment and shows there is NO holy spirit working thru the WTS.

I think many JW's have experienced double standards but they are too fearful to stand up because they know the consequences.

I have written here before how this has happened to me and the reason that the elders and CO did nothing is fear ,fear of the bad elder revealing shit about them. So very human.