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  Confusing details in "What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

  by WingCommander in

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  i've gotten through this entire booklet and have post-it notes on nearly every page.

  i know this is a "study brochure" for newly interested persons, but the sugar-coating and glossing over of history, facts, and some of the outright lies i've discovered in it are astounding.

  here is a "for instance": .

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  joelingeorgia

  the teaching has always been that everyone that died before armageddon, except for Adam and Eve and the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah would be resurrected. there has always been a distinction between dying and being destroyed by Jehovah. only those destroyed by Jehovah are not in line for a resurrection.

  my argument has always been, then well, it would have been better to have lived in the 18th or 19th century and died and be resurrected to a paradise earth without all the pressures people are under today. of course you can't have sex, since you are like the angels. but hey, always a price to pay.
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  I Have A New Grandson But He's Very Sick :(

  by minimus in

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  he was born yesterday with many complications including breathing problems, possible lung underdevelpment, anemia and body temperature issues.

  the poor little guy was hooked up to a breathing tube and tons of monitors.

  because the hospitals couldn't handle some of the problems, they sent him and my daughter to the best hospital in boston last night.

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  hope this is the start of an upturn Minimus
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  Man Blames Cat For Child Pornography Images On His Computer

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  he told detectives in martin county, florida that his cat would jump around on his keyboard and that's the reason over 1000 images were downloaded of child pornography!

  the 48 year old man couldn't understand how it happened either!!

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  child pornography should be a capital offense.
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  No more Two Day Kingdom Hall's being build?

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/tennessee/080609_congregation_builds_church_in_9_days.

  congregation builds.

  church in 9 daysupdated: thursday, 06 aug 2009, 6:20 pm cdt.

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  lol, even the women. hows 1940s
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  District Convention Observations

  by TD in

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  this year, i again accompanied my jw wife to one day (sunday) of the district convention this weekend.

  for any who are interested, i offer these observations from the sunday afternoon session:.

  a couple of things about the audience struck me as interesting.

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  i am really surprised that 1914 continues to carry so much weight. it was researching this issue while I was a pioneer that opened the first crack in my beiief that the Watchtower society was teaching "the truth"

  The doctrine as attempted to be proven though the mathematical wizardry of the 7 times, times being converted to years, the days of the years (lunar calendar not scientific year) and the day for a year scripture just blew my circuits. I think I didn't really pay attention until I started teaching this to other people. What I was willing to accept and believe for myself was one thing. What I was willing to tell someone else was the truth was quite another. I started skipping this lesson with my Bible studies.

  I soon left pioneering and was never really a believing witness again. This all happened when I was 20.
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  Went to the assembly!!!!!!!!!!

  by exbeliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the assembly today (sunday)cause my little girl asked me to,with mom.. i have not been to one for so long,and i had to laugh to myself,things have not changed.. they still have to keep the eye simple,the end is still right around the corner,etc,etc.. man i love my kid,i just need to keep at me wife,and i have to say that after the drama!!!!

  !,i have made some head way with my wife,she is coming round.and i have to say iam pleasesed.. so who else went if any and what did you think?.

  god bless you all x.

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  i had similar experiences at Bethel with the utter coldness and business like manner

  of the place. my doubts definitely started there.
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  Being Brought Up As A Jehovah's Witness---Was It A "BAD" Upbringing?

  by minimus in

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  i think that my upbringing made me the person that i am today---for good and bad.

  even though i was raised a witness, i don't think that my upbringing was bad.. your thoughts, please..

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  did my parents beat me? no. was I taught the value of honesty and justice? yes.

  did we bond like a normal family? no. I blame this on the guilt that my dad felt for something he never

  admitted to me but just alluded to from time to time. Our finances were torn asunder when dad had to stop

  selling tobacco warehouses in the early 70s. So that changed his life course tremendously. We never

  spent time together except for witness stuff. So, like I say, we never bonded like many families do.

  So, I guess there was good and bad. Not sure that it was any better or worse than other families I

  know that were not witnesses. I don't think it is as simple as being a witness. It is how you allow

  being a witness to affect you.
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  Being Brought Up As A Jehovah's Witness---Was It A "BAD" Upbringing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think that my upbringing made me the person that i am today---for good and bad.

  even though i was raised a witness, i don't think that my upbringing was bad.. your thoughts, please..

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  did my parents beat me? no. was I taught the value of honesty and justice? yes.

  did we bond like a normal family? no. I blame this on the guilt that my dad felt for something he never

  admitted to me but just alluded to from time to time. Our finances were torn asunder when dad had to stop

  selling tobacco warehouses in the early 70s. So that changed his life course tremendously. We never

  spent time together except for witness stuff. So, like I say, we never bonded like many families do.

  So, I guess there was good and bad. Not sure that it was any better or worse than other families I

  know that were not witnesses. I don't think it is as simple as being a witness. It is how you allow

  being a witness to affect you.
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  TED JARACZ' stroke, latest from Bethel heavy.

  by yesidid in

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  according to a bethel heavy i know rather well,.

  ted is paralysed down his right side,.

  however his mind and speech remain unaffected.. .

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  if we spent our time wishing that people who caused people harm would come to harm,

  we wouldn't have time to do anything else.
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  is john barr still alive

  by joelingeorgia in

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  are ted and john the last of the old guard?

  is john still alive?

  its interesting to see these people who shaped my beliefs and life for so long now dying..

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  it has been interesting to watch from the outside as the religion that I grew up in has disappeared.

  so many major changes to beliefs. it is really a different religion now. it has to be the most malleable

  religious belief system in the history of mankind. I knew that would have to drop the generation doctrine.

  what will be next.

  1. 1914 disappears

  2. blood transfusions deemed ok.

  3. disfellowshipping eliminated

  4. 144,000 shown to be symbolic not literal number, but two class system will remain.

  5. birthday celebrations become acceptable.

  i think all of these are possible within my lifetime, the next 20 years.