He's been around, but haven't seen him in a couple days...probably had to lay low for Memorial prep... I'm sure he'll be back around.
Morbidzbaby
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Wheres my old friend Miseryloveselders??
by charlie brown jr. inhas he been taken up in the rapture or is he mia..??????????.
i thought i heard gunshots from the fire ring squad but was hoping i was dreaming!!!.
rip if the gestapo took you..... you will be missed!!!.
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The Lord's Memorial Day
by lovelylil in* this thread is for the church and not to be used for debating christianity.
i would ask that those who are non-believers please respect the beliefs of others today.
thank you in advance.. for two millenia since christ's death, christians all over the world have been participating in what is known as the the last supper.
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Morbidzbaby
Mad Sweeney, the rest of the world's Easter date is for the resurrection of Jesus on the third day after his death. This observance is to commemorate his actual death, which Christians believe is the sacrifice that atones for their sins. I believe that technically, the world's date for his death would be Good Friday (I think)...but it's not really accurate.
Personally, while I'm not a Christian and will not be partaking, I will commemorate his death in my own way. While I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus, I do believe he existed and was a wonderful person whose views and teachings the world just was not ready for. I think he, as a person, is worth honoring.
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Morbidzbaby
watersprout, thanks for the kind words. He is really understanding and supportive. Best man I've known thus far. I talk about him a lot because I honestly can't believe we found each other. The treatment and consideration he gives me is the polar opposite of what I got from my JW ex. He lifts me up and helps me to stand tall, and has absolute faith and confidence in me and my abilities to make it on my own. He's strong, but gives me a soft place to land when I need it. He truly is an amazing man.
jgnat, interesting point about the dehumanizing aspect. When dissidents are demonized so much by the WTBS, it's easy to view them as subhuman, or even (as my ex called me) dangerous demonic influences. It's sad, but they need their delusions.
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Morbidzbaby
And definitely not deserving of life! We are deserving of jehovah burning our bottoms with his giant fireballs, reserved just for us apostates!
Ooooh! We get SPECIAL fireballs!! Wait, can I order mine monogrammed???
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Could this set a precedent regarding the blood issue??
by Morbidzbaby inhttp://abcnews.go.com/health/autism/kristen-labrie-sentenced-10-years-prison-withholding-sons/story?id=13383251&cid=espnheadline.
this mother was sentenced to 8 to 10 years for attempted murder because she refused to give her 9 year old son his chemotherapy medication, and thus it resulted in his death.. my first thought was that perhaps this is a stepping stone to parents being held responsible for not permitting lifesaving blood transfusions for their minor children, no matter if it is on religious grounds.
this woman's excuse was that the side effects of the medication were "painful" for her son (yet his resulting slow agonizing death was much more painful).
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Morbidzbaby
I agree as well, Mary. When it comes to legal cases with the R&F, the GB is content to sit in their ivory tower in Brooklyn and not utter a peep. But when it comes down on THEM, they're quick to jump and do damage control (like settling pedophilia cases out of court and then slipping the question about pedophilia into the series of questions you have to answer to become a MS or elder).
But I wonder if this might make some JW parents THINK... ya know? If they could face possible jail time, and a lot of it, would they still go ahead and deny their child medical care? It's something to think about.
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In the July 15th WT about Apostates did any one notice that they use the same illustration they used in the Movie Doubt
by life is to short indid anyone notice that in the july 15th wt right after the apostate article the next one is entitled "scattering feathers in the wind.
" it is the exact same illustration that philip seymour hoffman used in the movie doubt to meryl streep when she was accusing him of molesting the boys at the school.
the wt says it is an old jewish tale.
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Morbidzbaby
@ Pig, yes it does...it's symbolic. Basically, when a person gossips, it's like millions of feathers going everywhere. Once you start telling something to one person, you don't know HOW far and HOW out of hand it will get. The moral of picking up all the feathers is basically that the gossiping woman needed to learn how hard it would be to get back all those words from all those people who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from HER. It's actually a pretty good lesson.
I'm curious to know what part of Forrest Gump was used as well!
I wouldn't doubt that they are using movie lines and illustrations...maybe they figure the good little dubbies would never watch anything over a PG rating, so they wouldn't figure out that these illustrations come from popular movies...
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You need a messiah
by StopTheTears inyou might well ask that question, do we need a messiah?
yes, it would be logical to wonder whether a messiah would have any real effect on you.. .
some whose opinion you may respect would assure you that the answer is clear and unequivocal: you definitely do need a messiah, just as much as everyone else does.. .
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Morbidzbaby
While I applaud you for your conviction in what you believe, I must say I find it distasteful that you have put yourself in the judgement seat over the rest of us. YOU may feel YOU need a messiah. That's your right to feel that way. However, imposing your feelings on us as fact is pretty much the attitude that has made this world the way it is. People murdering other people for not believing the way they do. Parents strapping bombs to their children and making them into suicide bombers. It all starts with "MY belief is fact, YOURS is wrong". Even amongst Christians, it's "My Jesus is better than your Jesus".
How you feel about your beliefs is based on how you have interpreted the bible or how it has been interpreted FOR you. In other words, it's based on FEELING, since the bible has never been proven to be a factual book (quite the contrary, actually). Fact is never based on feeling. It's a conclusion that is based on solid evidence that cannot be refuted. When a conclusion is based on a feeling it becomes an OPINION. Everyone is entitled to have their opinions, but where it crosses the line is when those opinions become judgements upon another person's character, morals, and level of spirituality. Jesus himself was never credited with making such judgements. You can claim to be close to Jesus and have some sort of relationship with him, but if you are not applying his teachings, then how are you better than any of us?
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Morbidzbaby
I haven't yet experienced this, but I'm kinda looking forward to it. You bet your ass I'll make an effort to say hello as well! Just because THEY will follow Watchtower rules doesn't mean I will! If they're looking to make me feel uncomfortable by shunning me, they're in for a rude awakening because THEY will be the ones who are uncomfortable.
My own father kind of made it clear the other day that once I've moved, I can no longer ask them for help if I need it. He said "If you find you don't like where you're living and you can't make it, call up your brother and move closer to him and let him help you out"... So basically, he wrapped an obvious lack of confidence in my ability to take care of myself in a coating of "don't ask us to help you anymore, we're done". All because I don't want this silly-ass cult. At first it made me sad to know that when I do move, they more than likely will not speak to me anymore. I know they have hope for my brother because he's inactive and hasn't made any remarks to THEM about his feelings about the WTBS (though he has to me, he's not as far gone as I am, though he does have a lot of doubts...he won't DA because he told me he's afraid that if they are right, he'll never get to go back...I need to work with him...). Amazingly, my brother is a baptized JW, living with his fiance', tattooed, pierced all over, etc...and they are upset that he never calls and hasn't for over 2 years. Yet, here I am, doing all I can to help them and have a relationship with them, and once I leave I'm not welcome to have any relationship with them. My dad said "Well, ya know, if you leave the Truth, you're considered worldly and we CANNOT associate with you"...nice huh? My father, who after years of avoiding it finally apologized for the abuse I suffered, is willing to abuse me even further for the sake of this cult.
My bf tells me I should be happy to be leaving them behind after the treatment I've gotten throughout my life and even now by my mother...lately she treats me like a leper. He asked "Baby? Why are you not jumping for fucking JOY that you'll be away from that? Why are you not ECSTATIC that everyone who's used you and abused you will be far away and you get a chance few people rarely ever do...you get a chance to push the reset button on your life and do it RIGHT this time...why are you so sad??". I guess I'm sad for what could have been...same reason I cried when my mother's mother died. I couldn't stand the woman. In my eyes, she was pure evil and no one else in the family besides mom, me and my brother, one of my aunts and her sons, ever knew why we felt the way we did. When she died I was angry and sad and mourning what SHOULD have been. I mourned a loss I had been suffering since the day I was born. And that's pretty much what this is. I have my sad days where I regret that I have to leave my family behind. But then I remember that because I'm a "big bad apostate", they don't want me anyway.
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Is there anyway you can Hypnotize your way out of this S**t!!!
by Star tiger inhi all, .
with any of the new mind manipulative technologies can any of us forget the terrible experiences of the jehovahs witnesses, and live a normal life and so as to speak carry on as if these horrible times did not exist.. .
star tiger.
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Morbidzbaby
Unfortunately, you have to go through it and emerge from the ashes and carry on. It's not easy. In fact, sometimes it's downright exhausting. But the end result, as Rebel8 said, is worth it.
One day, all of us exes will not give much thought to the cult that had us controlled. We will be free of the shackles they placed on us in EVERY sense, even mentally.
It's just that the road to get there is long and rocky.
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Kids doing the dirty work...
by MrFreeze ina lot of times i noticed that jw's would have their little ones hold the magazines while out at the door.
i guess they figured it would make the householder more likely to take the trash.. well my parents tried to pull the same thing on me.
only with the memorial.
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Morbidzbaby
Oy vey... Gotta love that. What person could say no to an innocent child asking them to go?
I could...and I'd explain to the child WHY, which the parents probably wouldn't like very much at all. But it would most likely put an end to the attempts.