i'm new to this forum, but my girlfriend, manda-xo (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/214138/1/looking-for-some-help) {her opening thread}, came across it some time ago and wish to share my story as well as look for some advice and opinions on how to proceed from the current standpoint with my family.
yes, it's true that i was born into jw cult.
aapproxiamately 6 years ago manda and i started dating, i started coming into my own around that point, and recently (past year-ish) she helped me fully realize "truth" behind the organization.. .
My JW ex-husband kicked my son out of the house within a week of him telling us he no longer wanted to attend meetings.
I am sad for anyone else who has to go through what we went through.
PS
My son and I are closer than ever today, because I did not go along with the shunning. Good luck to you, darling.
Palm
this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.
please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.
what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.
My son just started a new job a couple weeks ago and he said there is a "brother" there - a young man who has only been in a couple of years. He clearly has mental issues and CONSTANTLY is telling his co-workers they are going to die at Armageddon.
My son says it is not a good "witness" and everyone avoids him.
My son also commented that the religion seems to prey on these ones.......
PS
My grandfather retired to a warmer climate a couple years after he was forcibly removed as an elder. His new cong wanted to appoint him right away, but he declined and never served again.
this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.
please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.
what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.
LITS:
Letting him met and then just sending him home is cruel also. He is being told at every meeting he has to preach and yet no one wants him, and he truly does not understand why.
This is where the elders are totally untrained to deal with these people. Most of the elders shunned him or like my husband just put up with him as my husband did not know what else to do. The elders just did not have the training on how to deal with mental illness.
I was reminded of my grandfather when you wrote this. He was an elder for many years. There was a stinky brother in the cong no one wanted to work with. My grandfather always took him, but *first* he would take him home and help him get cleaned up.
My grandfather was one of the good guys.
Later, an arrogant PR**K of an elder moved in, took an immediate dislike to my grandfather and didn't rest until he got him removed on some sort of trumped up charges.
But, I digress......
i have been very busy lately but i had to stop for a few and write this.. it is beyond me why the wts has the need to not only lie but to keep making stuff up as they go along.
the latest being an experience related to the jws at my local hall (a friend of mine who still goes told me).
was visiting this week and related the following account:.
Band:
It may be one loopy Witness exaggeration but it shows such a callous disregard for humankind so consistent with the religion.
I understand completely what you're saying.
well, stole retroactively.
a friend pointed out a glaring omission in the book of bible stories.. well frankly a bold faced lie of omission!.
its a tragedy but fact that most of us raised as dubbie kids learn the bible from the "my book of bible story's"... story 15 is about lot and his family leaving sodom.
Sorry about your panda......
I think there's a monkey around here someplace, if you're interested.......
if i remember correctly, the current watchtower teaching claims that the reason why there is such a diversity of religion today is due to the incident at the tower of babel.
upon confusing their languages, yahweh scattered them abroad and consequentaly they carried off with them a variety of "false religious beliefs and practices".. i would like to hear your thoughts on this.
is there archeological evidence to support this?
Yes.
Travelling........very BAD.
Motivation to travel = influence of the demons.
this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.
please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.
what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.
Question, though, relating to your experience: Would God destroy the householder at Armageddon because they didn't respond to the message of a unintelligible sales-pitch delivered by a severly mentally-handicapped individual?
We know the Witness answer to that is "yes".
Another question: Would he destroy the severely mentally handicapped individual at Armageddon because they didn't go door-to-door?
this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.
please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.
what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.
Shortly after moving into a new Hall, I was assigned to work in service with a sister who, I believed, was a little "slow".
It turned out she was severely mentally handicapped. She made absolutely NO SENSE at the doors and I was COMPLETELY embarrassed as I stood next to her. The poor householders had no clue what was going on, and kept glancing at me as if to say, "Please make this stop....."
It was eye-opening to me on 2 different levels:
1. No wonder no one else wanted to work with her. They foisted her off on me because I was new and didn't know her. Fool me once.......
2. Did they really believe people's life or death hung in the balance, based on their reaction to this sister's blitherings?
I mean, bless her heart.........but what good is accomplished by sending such ones out door-to-door?
i have been very busy lately but i had to stop for a few and write this.. it is beyond me why the wts has the need to not only lie but to keep making stuff up as they go along.
the latest being an experience related to the jws at my local hall (a friend of mine who still goes told me).
was visiting this week and related the following account:.
Well, that is interesting.
I remember being told at the time, that JW's were the only religion that was given "special access" to workers at Ground Zero. Because of the unique brand of "comfort" they brought to the workers.
It would be interesting if this could be confirmed.
i mean, come on.. it's a damn religion that you would die for.. you call yourself a "minister".. and i bet you believe that you could debate like, a harvard-educated theologian under the table or something.... .
so, jwn-ers, how many "jehova witness", "jehova witneses", or "jehovas' witness"es are you friends with on fb?.
any other unique spellings i missed?.
What would it take?
An education.
