i often wondered about this when i first started questioning things.. .
any jw that has died in decades past, how are they even eligible for ressurection?
during the time in which they died, they were never taught "the truth", as everything changed.. any jw today, looking forward to armageddon coming tomorrow, isn't being taught "the truth" either, as will be made manifest by more doctrinal change.
I had someone say to me the other day “it’s sad that you left the truth”, no doubt hoping to get the guilt feelings stirred up inside me. I nearly laughed out loud as I have been reasoning that the “truth” changes so much, that old truths become lies. So what was I leaving, “the truth” or a publishing company that keeps changing its mind to suit the dollar?
Mattieu.
did any of you guys ever try to "spiritually advance" by really making an effort in reaching out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.
only to be overlooked while some other brother who was honestly just a brown-noser or genuine hypocrite gets appointed.
without hardly any effort on his part?.
Same story as you Lancelink, did everything asked of me and more, yet after each c/o’s visit there was always something else that I needed to work on. It didn’t help that I wasn’t related to any of the elders or in a particular boys group. Later on I learnt various elders were holing grudges against me for “dobbing” them in to the society over some unscriptural practices. By the time I was appointed an ms in another congo, all of the previous body of elders bar 1 had been deleted. Corrupt sons of %$#%^’s!
Mattieu
could you kids just come up with some suggestions??
i love to cook, but i have such a hard time coming up with new dinner ideas.
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Chicken breast fillet, slice open the thickest part. Mix together sliced pecan nuts with fruit chutney, insert mixture into fillet.
Curl fillet up into a ball, wrap in a slice of bacon, using tooth picks to hold it together. Cook on BBQ or frying pan, 5 minutes each side.
Mix together 2 tablespoons of olive oil, lime juice, salt & pepper, sprinkle mixture over chicken during cooking.
Enjoy with salad and a nice sliced baked potato/onion/cream sauce dish!
Mattieu.
someone else posted on another forum they heard on the radio michael jackson is dead.
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The morning radio stations here in Melbourne are ALL playing nonstop Michael Jackson songs, even radio stations that would never play his music normally. 90% of talkback callers are not saying pleasant things about him. The jokes have already started to circulate. Remind me to tell you the joke about him coming back as a playstation later, once the grieving has come to an end....
Have to feel for his family & kids though.....
maybe some of them do not like particular people in other congregations, so they refuse to give the talk there.
do you know of any experiences like that?.
My old hall had 4 congregations meeting in a twin hall complex. Heaps of personality conflicts and internal politics amongst the 4 bodies of elders. And yes, some went on the record as saying they would never give a talk in certain congo’s whilst so and so was still an elder there.
When they had big working bees at the complex, it was always fun to pretend to be pulling out weeds whilst watching the goings on between some of those elders & elderettes.
Mattieu.
a few people have been sent home from my wife's workplace with swine flu today, including her neighbour.
we don't know if my wife has it yet.
scotland seems to be the epicentre of this outbreak in europe, but i know it has also been common in the us.
Hi Slim,
Yes my two daughters, my wife & I have had it. It really is a media beat up; it was just like the normal winter flu which we generally get here in Melbourne. The people at high risk are the elderly or those with pre-existing health problems. Sadly, in Australia appx 3000 people die every year from the common flu – and they are those in the above category.
3 People have died so far of the swine flu here in Oz (if you believe the media that is). One was passing away from cancer and the other two were from complicated health issues.
So whilst we had to have the face mask, be quarantined and overdose on Tamiflu, you could not tell the difference from “swine flu” and the “normal flu!”
That being said, as you are on medication that suppresses your immune system, I would be careful.
Mattieu
as i have mentioned before, i have a co-worker friend who is a long-time jw.
5 years ago, both of us (as well of a few others at my workplace) relocated to ne pa from the jersey shore.
my friend, who is at retirement age btw, lives about 30 miles from me.
Hi Thomas,
No doubt you would get the standard induced response “why are you being negative about the large door of activity that has been opened up to us?”
That was the response I got a few years ago when I asked why car groups were being organised in our congo to go help a rural cong some 4 hours drive away in country Victoria. Our own congo is on the list to serve where the need is great, we do not cover our territory according to the borgs timetable and we have an extensive amount of rural maps ourselves. (Our congo is on the edge of Melbourne, so we have city & country maps).
It was just an excuse for an elite group to go off to blow their own trumpets (and each other). The PO, sorry, co-ordinator of the body of elders, used to leave his wife at home whilst he joined a car group that also had in it a single pioneer sister that he used to spend a bit of time with in the door to door work....
Mattieu
the new field arrangement for bethel workers.they will not work on saturdays mornings.remember how.
the wbts was pushing that everyone should visit bethel.they even had a special brochure on how one.
should dress when visiting bethel.no doubt some made plans well ahead of time to visit bethel hq this.
Hi Bob,
They just announced on Tuesday night at our hall that the Australian Bethel is adopting the same practice: no work on Saturdays and no tours. Yes the letter mentioned the drivel that this allows them to spend more time in the door to door work and what a loving arrangement from Jehovah! I nearly vomited when my wife recounted the letter to me after she got home from the meeting; it drove me straight to the liquor cabinet!
Mattieu.
i wrote this up today in prepartion for meeting with a writers group.
thought i'd see what you guys think.
anybody know an agent?.
Sounds like a great read........
Mattieu.
it would be interesting to ask gb which doctrines do they feel were spirit directed over the years and which ones are today?
what would those bastards have to say to that?
they're directed but not perfect?
I knew they weren’t spirit directed when they made me an MS!!! And oh, when they also organised that fiasco called an International convention in Sydney a few years back, no r&f know about the $$$$ they took from the NSW government.
Mattieu.
