A big welcome to you 2pink, I really did feel for you as I read your post, it will get easier over time. Hope to hear more from you soon.
Mattieu
firstly, thank god i found this forum!
i've spent the better part of today while my kids were in school reading many threads.. some background...i am in my mid 30s, married, 2 kids.
i was born and raised a jw...came from "good" stock...elders, pioneers, etc.
A big welcome to you 2pink, I really did feel for you as I read your post, it will get easier over time. Hope to hear more from you soon.
Mattieu
i have been active on this board a week now and i think for the most part, my head is alot clearer now.
previously when i'd considered leaving the organisation, i had no other knowledge to back up my feelings.
i simply just wanted to leave and thought that come armageddon, i would die.
Hi wtl, those of us who were born into the org share so many of the same issues later in life, at least we have a great outlet to share and listen to each other....
Mattieu
well- you knew this was coming next after the article of how to be jesus friend.
so the wt society was setting it's members up to seek friends only in the ranks of jehovah's witnesses.
basically in this article " maintaining friendships in a loveless world " - even from the title you get the impression the wt is showing that the world is loveless- but the jehovah's witnesses are not.
But when individuals are drawn together by mutual love for God, THEIR FRIENDSHIP WILL BE UNSHAKEABLE. "
Riiiiiggght, unshakeable hey? What about all the "true friendships" in the congregation broken up by ones who back bite/slander/gossip, cause trouble by being a busy body and enforcing their own personal opinions?? Or "true friendships" broken up by hmm, let see, sexual immorality??
Who are these guys kidding? Are they that immune from the averge j-dub congo that they don't realise what problems the average congo has with personality/friendship issues?
I could walk into my last 2 halls that I went to and point out ones who were not speaking to certain other bro & sisster, as well as elders who were fighting amongst themselves and some elders wives who would not even say hello to other elders wives!
What about the former PO, sorry CC who up and left "Plenty" congo in Melbourne along with wife, daughter & her hubby and grandkid and moved to neighboring hall over disputes with other elders and families?? This is happening everywhere, so much so that I want to puke when I read propaganda articles such as this one.
Mattieu (hanging in there for knock off time drink)
i have a vaca coming up and need some input...where to go?
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come on, i know you wanna....tell me where to go.. go ahead i can take it...
oz, where else??
Mattieu.
during the mid 1960s, we were regularly visited by jehovah's witnesses at the door.
i needed to know how to manage the situation and i was very fortunate to be given two research studies that exposed the jws errors on the neo-babylonian chronology.
one study was written by geoff rogerson, from the small country town of western australia called denmark, and the other was by max hatton, who had been a jw for 5 years but had been affected by geoff's work.. .
Thx again Doug,
Mattieu.
i never heard it like this.
has anyine ever heard about this one?.
it's undeniable, they can't say they never "really said it".. .
It sounds like Maxwell Smart talking into his shoe-phone..........
I hope it is genuine as I would like nothing better than to play that to a few who deny the 1975 debacle that I know, though like Cabasilas, could have been edited..
Mattieu.
i would say just the bomb!.
one case involved a teenage muslim girl with burn scars on her face....her bomb failed to detonate so she clawed at her face in frustration...she was hoping to end her pain by going to "paradise" to be perfect.
witnesses claim if the die due to lack of blood or due to nuetrality it's okay!
Agreed, these threads are getting just as bad as the africangb threads, one reason why I stopped loging in for a whille.
i had the "privelege" of giving the masterbation talk years ago.
when i looked at the talk slip and saw the theme, i thought at least they have an expert on the subject.
the best thing about it was that the point i was to be counseled on was gestures.
I too gave the talk, the school overseer "hand picked" myself and another brother to give the talks (there were two masturbation talks in two weeks)
I had sore wrists by the time I finished my talk.........................
Mattieu.
i was watching the news when the first plane hit the first tower.
cnbc actually.
the news people couldn't believe it was happening and thought it was a small plane that went off course.
We had just come home from the Tuesday night meeting (AUST time), stayed up watching the late news, saw the 2nd plane hit and we didnt sleep at all for the next 36 hours, still get goosebumps.
The phone kept ringing through the night with all the bro & sis saying the big A was here!
Mattieu.
so this is only the 4rth birthday ive ever celebrated so im make a big deal anyone else finding the enjoyment of birthdays.i had o tell my mom last night that my b day was today and all she said was "im happy you were born" wich is alot for her.and my dad thought it was yesterday aw well happy birthday to meeeeeeeee!.
Happy 20th birthday freedomisntfree!
Mattieu.