Posts by Mattieu

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Newbie to the Boards !

by TheOutSpoken1 in

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id like to introduce my self as im new......a lil nervous but ready to have some conversation that doesnt require me to rely on old men in ny to think for me.

im tired of the puppetteering, the sly green handshakes to move up, the lies turned into new light- "what happened to yes means yes?

", just has the makings of a bad ponzi scheme in my opinion...i officially begun my fade this year.....and im enjoying it.

Letter read to Victorian congregations re WCC

by Mattieu in

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had an interesting chat with my ex re the current debate over working with children checks - of which she has one due to her volunteering at our childrens primary school.

i remember when she had to apply that i made the comment elders & mss should be having background checks due to the history of abuse in the borg and covering up (these discussions normally dont go down well as she is well and truly blinded, well meaning, but blinded).. anywho, she told me about the recent letter that was read to all the victorian congregations, she couldnt tell me verbatim what it said, though the gist was that is no real need for elders to get this check, but rather they are complying with what has been asked legally.. now i dont know if what she said next was based on the letter read or the after discussions at the k/hall, but she made the comment the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers... i tried reasoning that another elder who moves in from interstate is certainly a stranger, until you get to know him on a personal level.

didnt matter how i reasoned or what incidents i bought up, the view amongst her and the other mums that she hangs around in the cong is that the elders getting a wcc check is totally unnecessary and that the jws are being picked on.. next week, i am meeting up with a mate who is an elder here in victoria and trying to step down, so will pick his brains and see if he can get a copy.... .

Mattieu

Had an interesting chat with my ex re the current debate over working with children checks - of which she has one due to her volunteering at our children’s primary school. I remember when she had to apply that I made the comment elders & ms’s should be having background checks due to the history of abuse in the borg and covering up (these discussions normally don’t go down well as she is well and truly blinded, well meaning, but blinded).

Anywho, she told me about the recent letter that was read to all the Victorian congregations, she couldn’t tell me verbatim what it said, though the gist was that is no real need for elders to get this check, but rather they are complying with what has been asked legally.

Now I don’t know if what she said next was based on the letter read or the after discussions at the k/hall, but she made the comment “the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers…” I tried reasoning that another elder who moves in from interstate is certainly a stranger, until you get to know him on a personal level. Didn’t matter how I reasoned or what incidents I bought up, the view amongst her and the other Mums that she hangs around in the cong is that the elders getting a wcc check is totally unnecessary and that the jw’s are being picked on.

Next week, I am meeting up with a mate who is an elder here in Victoria and trying to step down, so will pick his brains and see if he can get a copy…

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Ok Name your JOKE!

by Voices in

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what was the best joke you ever heard as you were growing up?.

in a psychiatrist's waiting room two patients are having a conversation.

the second answers, "i'm napoleon, so the doctor told me to come here.".

Mattieu

Ten Priests are killed in an accident & arrive at the Pearly Gates.

St Peter says "If any of you are paedophiles, go to Hell!"

Nine of them start walking away.

St Peter shouts "Take the deaf one with you!"

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Ireland Bethel up for sale

by Mattieu in

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http://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.

whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.

does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.

Mattieu

with pic:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/2011/1012/1224305632482.html

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Ireland Bethel up for sale

by Mattieu in

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http://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.

whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.

does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.

Mattieu

http://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html

Whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly J is blessing his people and speeding up the work. Does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????

And oh, with the money they make on the sale, will they give it all back to those who gave the donations or those who volunteered "free labour" on this project??

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Victoria, Australia: October 11th hearing. All five cases made it through the court...just!

by AndersonsInfo in

this is a preliminary summary only.

i hope to obtain more details later.. .

all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.

Mattieu

Thx Barb, was hoping to drive down to Traralgon for the hearing myself but couldnt make it. Will def drop in on the November hearing, could be a bit more eye opening by the look of it.. Cheers, Matt.

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George Harrison Living/World, Scorsese's Tribute

by designs in

great tribute to george harrison on hbo.. here comes the sun.

something.

name your favorite george harrison songs and memories..

Mattieu

While my guitar gently weeps....

Got to know George through some mutual friends, a real Gentleman, down to earth, sadly missed.

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JW Pedophiles in Australia Video

by OnTheWayOut in

i am not sure how old this is, it was just posted on youtube.

the convention shown is from 2002. the former elder starting at around 5:50 in part one really reveals jw practices.

i have only watched part one when i posted this, but will watch all parts.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idyh2toeuvy.

Mattieu

Thx for posting the clips otwo, I remember before this story aired we were told not to watch it, thank god for you tube, it will never go away. I had a few friends in Natalie Webbs congregation, they could never believe that Maurice Hadley would visit her Dad in prison once a month, sickening. I stand corrected, but Im pretty sure this was the reason Bentleigh Cong got disbanded not long after.

I couldnt believe the camera shots of the district convention at the Melbourne Tennis Centre, not only did I see me & my family, but many I knew, so many no longer go anymore, trip down memory lane. Sadly also saw a few no longer with us....

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Victoria, Australia: FYI-Far reaching ramifications of the criminal indictment of the GB

by AndersonsInfo in

fyi: the following material that im providing comes from a source in australia, an xjw who is now monitoring the case and will provide feedback, comments, and opinions.

barbara.

the governing body of jehovah's witnesses was recently summoned to appear in the magistrates' court of victoria on september 13, 2011 in relation to a number of indictable criminal offences allegedly committed.

Mattieu

Anywho.... On a lighter note, its been a glorious Spring day here in Vic.... I hope br Toole brought his sunglasses with him...

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Victoria, Australia: FYI-Far reaching ramifications of the criminal indictment of the GB

by AndersonsInfo in

fyi: the following material that im providing comes from a source in australia, an xjw who is now monitoring the case and will provide feedback, comments, and opinions.

barbara.

the governing body of jehovah's witnesses was recently summoned to appear in the magistrates' court of victoria on september 13, 2011 in relation to a number of indictable criminal offences allegedly committed.

Mattieu

Hi BP!

Ok, have found the listing for the Magistrates court for today: Unknown V Christian Cong of JW's.

https://dailylists.magistratesvic.com.au/browse-court-lists/court-itinery-list.aspx?id=97&type=Criminal&date=13/09/2011

Its out at the Latrobe Magistrates Court in Gippsland, not here in old Melb town. By the look of it, was scheduled for 9:30am this morning (3 hours ago) and the JW's were either a no show or not represented by any Toole's......

Cheers, Matt