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  Just signed up!

  by Ice cream in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks, i'm already a member of jwr (different name), but i read far more posts here than on that board so i thought i would join in.

  plenty of good company here by the looks.

  cheers .

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  darthfader

  Welcome aboard! Tasty name by the way :)
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  Found anothe song book switch that is interesting....

  by elderelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  again, sorry for getting a song stuck in your head.. .

  2. though thousands will be falling,.

  yes, at your very side,.

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  darthfader

  Funny thing.. I totally forgot the melody to that song until I read the lyrics.. Even though my wife and I have been faded for years -- I am still surprised and the way the Organization works in little devious ways to further the control. I really feel for those who are still in...

  Thanks!
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  example of dumbing down and outright attempts to control thought in new song book

  by elderelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lovley example from this weeks meeting:.

  old song book,.

  ssbsong174stayawake,standfirm,growmighty.

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  darthfader

  You have got to be kidding me! That is a blatant and "in your face" change --- I really hope some of the rank and file see that! WOW!

  darthfader
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  Where do we go when we die

  by watersprout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower teaches that we return to dust.

  i'm not taken with that idea!.

  we are spiritual beings so where does our spirit go?.

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  darthfader

  After I die, will I exist again? Forever is a long time -- A lot can happen when you think of infinity...
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  Arizona Assembly Hall costs $7M (material & land)

  by Gayle in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.trivalleycentral.com/articles/2010/07/09/maricopa_monitor/religion/doc4c3629b66de3f020301784.txt.

  this has got to be an economic crunch for jws around here..financial housing crisis has hit many jws (and non-jws).

  the job market is very tight.

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  darthfader

  Looks pretty. It is supposed to serve Tucson as well as the Phoenix area? The witnesses have been struggling for years to get an assembly hall. Im glad this one is in an equally inconvenient location for everyone except those living in CG. It strikes me the number of volunteers who build Halls for the organization -- It's got to be a burden to all those construction workers looking for a job. I wonder if any of the workers are on Unemployment while volunteering for the Organization...
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  MP3s !!! 2010-2011 DC TALKS

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  commentary on mp3s: (in addition to circulate as you see fit!).

  in light of the wts's recent attempts to conceal it's talks from broader inspection and documentation, mp3s to the public are now mostly the works of the 'conscious class' and those exjws who force themselves to endure hours upon hours of control-laced presentations.

  kudos to all those who embody anonymous.

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  darthfader

  BTTT (and a Thank You!!!)
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  Re-reading "Crisis of Conscience" again....

  by ziddina in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the 'revelations' hit me even harder, the second time around..... i purchased two copies, the version copyrighted 1983 and the version copyrighted 2004. i kept the old version [1983] and just donated the 2004 copy to my local library - with a quick warning that 'cult' members may be inclined to steal the expose.

  i decided to read it again to try to visualize how a "worldly" person who is unacquainted with the jws would view the book.... in reading the book again, i am more forcefully struck by the blatant contradictions between the 'official' stance of the watchtower society and their 'behind-the-scenes' behavior.... chapters 3 & 4 - "governing body" and "internal upheaval and restructure" - contain some eye-popping material... the earlier portion of chapter 3 touches on the intrusive regulation of sexual practices between husband and wife [i'll bet any worldly person reading that would find that chilling, to say the least...], and then goes into the power struggles between russell's followers and rutherford's ousting of said followers during his successful bid for control.. very revealing... i was also struck by the fact that the wtbts was a religion with a single man leading it, until the very end of nathan knorr's period of leadership, despite the claims of the watchtower magazine that "god's organization" was being run by a "governing body" of spiritual "caretakers" for several years prior to the actual existence of said "governing body"!!!.

  as ray franz states, page 65 of 1983 version: "[quote from 12/15/71 watchtower...]: "thus, too, even though there were no apostles of christ on hand in the nineteenth century, god's holy spirit must have been operative toward the formation of the governing body for his anoited remnant ... the facts speak for themselves.

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  AIW

  Since the Author of COC was a JW.. It goes without reason that the "God" referenced in your sentence is Jehovah. Since you didn't specifically list that name in your question, I would say the nearest name is Yahweh.

  I would be tempted to pick Satan or maybe the Triple Goddess, but that would be baiting...
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  Magazine Distribution--Your Area?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found out that in a local congregation the service overseer has directed that magazines not be given by jws to:.

  a) inactive jws.

  b) return visits that are not coming to the meetings after 6 months.

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  darthfader

  The only JW's I see going door to door are the ones from the Spanish Cong.
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  Goodbye Everybody!

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  startfragment.

  after thinking things over i have realized that the time has now come for me to say goodbye to jwd.. some personal reminiscing about all of the people i have enjoyed talking with on jwd reminds me why it is time to go.

  simply speaking, most of my good friends are no longer here.

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  darthfader

  Drew, you are one of the anchor posters here and a real asset. Im glad all your comments will continue to live on this forum to help others who come along here.

  I am glad you are off to greener pastures!

  Good Luck

  Sincererly,

  Darth Fader
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  The night I decided my C.O. was an apostate

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following took place several years ago in a congregation in the united states.

  we had this circuit overseer who was a real piece of work.

  40-ish mts grad, i believe.

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  darthfader

  Debator,

  The love you speak of "like a parent loves their child" is not the same love within the Organization. The love from the "elders" in the forms of rebuke and councel and "encouragement" is a manifestation of selfishness and self preservation - where the "keeping the congregation without spot" is the primary focus - not the care an feeding of the tender ones.