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  WT advice about unbelieving mates or DF'ed family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  this is a revival of an old thread: http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php?topic=8144.0;topicseen.

  i revived it as i was looking for it to show to someone else.. it seems they wish they could legally kill people's own family members.

  since they cannot, they encourage believing mates to prostitute themselves with the unbeliever- trade sex (marital due) for financial support.. here's the older wt article that reveals "their" attitude toward unbelieving or df'ed family members:.

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  wantstoleave

  Very good point Mad Sweeney!
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  My sucky situation

  by brotherdan in

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  hi guys,.

  sadly some of them had been in bethel for 5 - 10 years and were still cleaning toilets.. after about 2 years of it i couldn't do it anymore.

  i always knew something wasn't quite right with this organization.

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  wantstoleave

  Welcome! It was refreshing to read your posts, about how spiritual you were and how most of us on here can relate. We can also relate to your seeing the light and are all working through issues of one type or another. My ex had serious doubts some years ago but I was like your wife, and stood my ground that his thinking was skewed. We remained married for another year, til he left one day and we've not heard from him since. Ironically, he is still a witness but here I am!

  You really only have 2 options. Stay quiet and she'll think you no longer think the way you do, or stand firm to your new beliefs and be prepared for the fall out.

  I find it amazing she brought up divorce so fast too. To me, that sounds alarm bells that she doesn't love you as much as she says. If she's that willing to throw everything away so soon, I think her feelings go deeper. You may need to stress to her how much you do love her, that your feelings for her will never change. Assure her, because women need that - alot...lol. I'm sure you already have but it won't hurt to reiterate it.

  If the elders become involved, and she's more than likely spoken to family or friends about it, if not the elders, then you will have to make a choice. BUT, tell the elders you don't want to get divorced. They won't advocate a divorce. They will tell her that she should remain with you, believer or not. There are many articles in the publications about living with unbelieving mates. She can't just use it as an excuse to get rid of you.
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  Why are anniversaries okay?

  by MrFreeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sure this topic has been brought up before.

  i was at a jw graduation party yesterday and realized "if birthday parties are not okay because they supposedly bring undue attention to an individual, why are graduation parties and wedding anniversaries okay?

  " they both glorify individuals and put them on a pedestal.

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  wantstoleave

  I've always questioned this too and the whole birthday thing was brought up and that 'even Jesus told us to celebrate the anniversary of his death'. And how only bad things were mentioned about birthdays in the bible. Give me a break! I'm going to celebrate my children's birthdays when they next have one...will be theirs and my first!
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  Have become seriously angry ...all of a sudden...

  by Lozhasleft in

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  2. beliefs

  another thread has set me off ...the one about anniversaries ...and i read an extract that blondie posted on there....suddenly i am soooo bl**dy furious...so indignant!!!!.

  why did we allow a bunch of men to dictate to us not only what we believed, but even how we parented our kids,and then even how we spent our free time?????

  how could we allow this stuff?????.

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  wantstoleave

  I feel the same...all that repressed anger....lol. I need someone to blame..haha! I have come to realise that it was not my parents fault for how they raised me. They figured they were doing the right thing and I don't blame them for that. But I still feel angry and I need somewhere to place it, or have to let it go. I'm leaning toward the latter. Vent away sweetie! We're all here for each other x
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  WT advice about unbelieving mates or DF'ed family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a revival of an old thread: http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php?topic=8144.0;topicseen.

  i revived it as i was looking for it to show to someone else.. it seems they wish they could legally kill people's own family members.

  since they cannot, they encourage believing mates to prostitute themselves with the unbeliever- trade sex (marital due) for financial support.. here's the older wt article that reveals "their" attitude toward unbelieving or df'ed family members:.

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  wantstoleave

  This is the part that bothers me about shunning where it talks about making the unfaithful one recognise the error of his ways, to shame him into returning to the faith. If a person who has left has decided they are NOT going back, then shunning is useless. They won't recognise 'error of their ways' if they've decided they no longer want to be a witness. Their whole belief system will have changed, so no amount of not talking to their family is going to change their mind. To me, it's a disgusting way into putting the 'guilt trip' on disfellowshipped/disassociated ones in order to make them repent.
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  Parents who can't see the truth about their kids

  by MMXIV in

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  just discovered that my nephew, whose parents are both dubs is the school bully.

  he was sent home for beating a kid up, he was also caught trying to steel a bike from a boy half his size.

  apparently it's because his teachers are "useless" and "he has to bully in case he becomes a victim".

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  There could be many reasons for his behaviour. Could come from low self esteem, simply being bored because he is intelligent or perhaps a learning disability such as autism. Autism, high functioning, exhibits in many ways. I know autistic kids who are so bright but yet so bored at school that they lash out. It can be solved by addressing their sensory needs. He needs an outlet, and for him the only way he can control it is to lash out in violence. Given a different outlet, he may stop what he's doing. He could also be reacting to things at home, or perhaps even in the classroom. What is he like with his teacher? Do they have a good relationship?
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  Prince: How the rock legend turned his life around

  by Dogpatch in

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  what is your opinion of prince nowadays?.

  one of the worlds raunchiest rock stars, prince is in his stacked heels and flamboyant suit strutting from house to house around an ordinary suburban estate.. from: http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/07/06/prince-how-the-rock-legend-turned-his-life-around-115875-22384807/.

  flanked by minders, he goes up a garden path, knocks on a door and politely asks the householder: would you like to talk about god?.

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  wantstoleave

  His mum was a witness most of her life? Did she die a witness? I never knew that about him, which means he was exposed to the religion as a child, and probably always had it in his heart - somewhere. Kind of like going back to his roots. I believe Cliff Richard grew up the same didn't he? He still has affection for the witnesses also.
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  Oil spill in the Apocalypse?

  by Kosonen in

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  i've found several similar youtube videos, here is one of them:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgqc-uabits.

  quite interesting how well the words of revelation 8:8,9 fits what's happening.

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  wantstoleave

  My dad was talking about the oil spill other day and some scripture about all the fishes dying or something? And how he thinks that perhaps it's a literal meaning with all that's going on with the oil spill at the moment.
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  Remember me?

  by Newborn in

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  i haven't been here for a loooong time but i see that some of the oldies are still here .

  i hope you're all doing great and having a nice summer!?.

  i'm doing just fine.

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  wantstoleave

  Welcome back! And congrats on how things are going with you!! I'm just newly back on the site too, though nowhere near as progressed as you in the scheme of things. Look forward to seeing you around here more :)
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  Which Generation will not pass away?

  by wannabe in

  1. watchtower
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  " {revelation 17:11 niv}.

  " {revelation 13:3 niv}.

  " {revelation 13:12 niv}.

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  wantstoleave

  Sorry, couldn't read all that, was way too long Maybe in future just get the gist out, wait for replies and then ask more questions.

  It's funny, my father never mentioned the generation change to me. And he's super zealous (God love him!) and usually tells me all new stuff. Maybe he just forgot? Now, how do I broach the subject with him, without him thinking I'm still spiritual and genuinely interested...lol!