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wantstoleave
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New Apostate here
by skitt ini did not know where to start, but figured the personal experience section was a good place to begin.
won't bore you with all the particulars today....but i was raised in "it" (wont call it the truth, cause it ain't) from about 1968. baptized in 1985, faded about 2001.....woke up from the insanity after reading ray franz forbidden book a few years ago(crisis).
only sorry i did not read it earlier....but there was that fear factor instilled in me.
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My Story - Abbreviated but still way too long
by jamesmahon inas i have enjoyed reading everyone elses biogs here i thought it was about time that i put my own down.
i have thought about why i want to do this and whilst i can pretend it is for the better good and it will act as a warning for others thinking of joining the witnesses, actually i think it is because i think it is just because it makes an interesting story and as will become apparent a good part of my life i had to live a lie and i now find it really liberating just to be really open with everyone.. i also thought about how to write it.
was tempted to write it to the tune of the fresh prince but thought that might get a bit tough after about verse 38. then wondered whether i should do it in the style of one of those biography pieces in the awake but that would involve reading an awake to mimic the style and just couldnt be bothered.
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wantstoleave
Wow what a read! Gripping to the very end...then it ended abruptly...please tell us more . What happened to the psychotic teacher? Was she pregnant with your child? I am so sorry for all you have been through, you truly have been through the mill. Welcome to the board!
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R.I.P Daniel
by Mattieu inevery time i hear the following song by elton john, i have to pull over and shed a tear or two or twenty and think of all the other people like me who lost a brother whose name was daniel.... my brother daniel would have turned 40 today august 6 (southern hemisphere time).. i sadly lost daniel when i was 5 and he was 4 .... i still have vivid memories and photographs, yet sadly due to the religion that is called the jehovahs witnesses have not yet fully grieved or coped with my younger brothers death in a road accident.
i have never spoken to anyone outside my family about daniels death as i was raised up with the view that as a young person i would witness any day now the resurrection of my dear little brother.
not a week goes by when i do not visit his gravesite at fawkner cemetary looking for closure or the fact that i may never see him in the new system.
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wantstoleave
((HUGS)) Mattieu!!!
I don't think we ever get over the pain of losing someone we love, especially a sibling. My mum lost her sister at the same ages that you and your brother were and to this day she still talks about her and misses her. She wonders what she would've grown up to look like and all the things she would've grown up to do as an adult. She remembers her sweet nature, how quiet and loving she was and I know it pains her greatly that she never got to grow up with her.
Whatever the future holds, treasure the memories of your little brother. There isn't a person out there who can tell us what happens after death, we have to experience it to know it. So who knows, you may indeed get to meet him again, in another time, another place . Thinking of you on his birthday x
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Is the WTBTS mistaken or deceptive?
by exwhyzee inwhen i look back at history, i see the great lengths people have gone to, to prove their devotion to god and to carry out what they though to be his will.. do you think the watchtower organization is truly trying to deceive people and cover things up or do you think they are honestly misguided or mistaken in some of their beliefs and policies ?
if so, what purpose would they have for doing this?.
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wantstoleave
I think they are misguided, mistaken and deceptive. It's their personal interpretation of the bible, which they hold as sacred and gospel, so choose to live their lives by. The interpretation of it is where the danger lies, and opinion of man comes into play.
Then there are the followers who blindly go along because they believe it is the only path. Witnesses aren't taught to think or question, just follow and accept. That is where deception can infiltrate because they know they have a following and what they say goes. But probably deep down, they don't feel what they are doing is wrong, which comes back to the mistaken part.
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wantstoleave
I often wonder this but so far haven't come across any posters I recognise. Though I do worry about the lurkers or elders and MS patrolling!
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Isn't going to Law School a no-no?
by Chaserious ini was reading some education-related threads on here and i'm curious about something.
i haven't been out too long, and while i was in, i was farsighted enough to get my college degree part-time at night.
i kind of knew i'd be out someday and would need it... anyway, since i've been out, i've been going to law school.
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wantstoleave
Any kind of University education is frowned upon here. I still went though . The way I figured at the time was, if the system was to go on, I needed to be able to provide for myself. My family agreed with me and so off I went and did my 4yrs. I had a hard time in the congregation though. I still went on f/service and all meetings, but quite often I wouldn't get called upon for answers and the like. I also wasn't invited out to parties or get togethers. So I guess I was secretly being shunned.
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Happy 2010 Xmas to all British Elders!!
by fokyc ini know it's a bit early for xmas greetings but;.
i understand all british elders will be attending their ministry school on:.
saturday 25th december 2010 - christmas day.
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wantstoleave
I didn't realise so few countries used crackers at xmas time! Learn something new everyday . It's an integral part of celebrations here. And yes, most jdubs get together on Dec 25th and have a 'dinner' or 'lunch' but not xmas...no, that would be naughty and pagan! Double standard to the max!
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What would you do?
by wasblind inthis has not happened to me personally ,but was told to me by a reinstated member.
a sister who was reinstated, accompanied her mom to another sisters house for dinner.
and a movie.
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wantstoleave
My mum would've left had that been me. Her loyalty to her flesh and blood means more than a stupid dinner invite.
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Woe to the Pregnant woman
by exwhyzee inluke 21:23 " woe to the pregnant woman and the ones suckling a baby in those days!
for there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people.. the society always applied this scripture, which was talking about the destruction of jerusalem, to the last days and the destruction of this system of things.
the big 1975 push was in full swing when my mother found out she was pregnant with my youngest sister.
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wantstoleave
That's terrible frigginconfused and must've made the study feel very sad and awkward I'd imagine .
No one has the right to tell someone else they can't have kids, new system or not. I know so many couples who married 20+yrs ago and didn't have children because they were waiting til paradise. Even now people pass opinion within the congregation thinking it's their right, but it's not.
When I was pregnant I had people say to me 'it's a mistake to raise kids in this system' or 'what if the tribulation breaks out while you're pregnant?'. It really freaked me out at the time and looking back, it was none of their business and I should've told them so!
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What do you think about this kid?
by jamiebowers inmy adult stepson, who lives with us, has his daughter every other week.
she turned one in march.
she's very bright, verbal and started walking at 9 months.
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wantstoleave
Yeh, just keep an eye on her. When she gets to about 3 and you've still got concerns, then seek opinion from a Dr etc. But kids change so much in the first few years, so try not to worry yet . It's never too early to teach her appropriate behaviours etc though. Even at such a young age you can help her manage her emotions and hyperactivity. When my son was her age and off the wall hyperactive, I started teaching him coping techniques. Like breathing, counting to 10 etc. I taught him to recognise it physically, and to this day tell him that when he gets that way, it may hurt his heart - in a literal sense. For his hyperactivity, I started him on fish oil at 18mths and it made a huge difference. I get my son to close his eyes and imagine the waves of the sea and things calming too. Doesn't work all the time, but remember that you are her best advocate and you can help her along
My younger son is also autistic but more aspergers I'd suspect. He doesn't mind mess at all and can't find the road to his own mouth..lol! Each autistic child is different. With my oldest, he would talk talk talk but I couldn't actually understand him til he was 3. So while he had the ability to speak and formulate sounds and modulate his speech, he wasn't making sense. He also had weird names for things, but I knew what he meant. He also used alot of 'echolalia' which is where autistic kids repeat what you're saying. So you think 'oh yes, he is understanding me coz he's repeated it' but in actual fact, he was just echoing what I had said.
And while my son has perfect speech now, a speech pathologist assessed him and he's actually not comprehending alot. So he can talk fine but his comprehension is way out. For instance, if I show him a page full of drawings, he can't distinguish them all, or pick out the thing I ask him to. So there is so much to autism that I think we all take for granted as being natural to us. Try and harness her hyperactivity with lots of physical play. I did this for my son by enrolling him in daycare a couple of mornings a week. I knew even then he needed it and also the social outlet. It worked wonders. My son was a screamer, for what I would think was no reason, yet when he was old enough to tell me, he said that noises were too loud, or the sun too bright. Little things like that.