Your last post! My first post over there was my last...lol
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
this could be my last post over on greatcrowd.net.. i just wanted everyone to see it before i went down.. (please scroll down to the bottom).
http://www.greatcrowd.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=25&t=000011.
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Your last post! My first post over there was my last...lol
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
introduction: much has been said about the jw judicial committee system, and all the negatives, along with some concurrent shepherding visits.
the purpose of this short series is to discuss how and why we made shepherding visits, and what those visits were like from the perspective as elders.
nothing here is designed to be self-serving, self-indulgent, or self-justifying ... it needs to be told from the vantage point of how we felt at the time, and what we thought we were accomplishing ... though blind to the hurt and harm some of this caused.. ps: future installments will eliminate the background, and be shorter.. background: our congregation was known as the armpit of the circuit because of high inactivity, high irregularity.
I wouldn't say I'm a fan of John Bradshaw. He is just someone that I've learned from. I read many other opinions as well. I just thought Amazing would connect with him because they both have been affected by similar experiences.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
introduction: much has been said about the jw judicial committee system, and all the negatives, along with some concurrent shepherding visits.
the purpose of this short series is to discuss how and why we made shepherding visits, and what those visits were like from the perspective as elders.
nothing here is designed to be self-serving, self-indulgent, or self-justifying ... it needs to be told from the vantage point of how we felt at the time, and what we thought we were accomplishing ... though blind to the hurt and harm some of this caused.. ps: future installments will eliminate the background, and be shorter.. background: our congregation was known as the armpit of the circuit because of high inactivity, high irregularity.
Amazing, I also have the shame book and most of Bradshaw's books as well as many of his seminar tapes. The healing the shame that binds you is one of his best.
I have to agree with you on this:
I have read John Bradshaw's book, healing the Shame that Binds You, and I watched his series on PBS. He is very excellent, and provides more useful information in one hour than a hundred JW Eler visits.very interesting Amazing
[edited for posting while sleeping...lots of errors LOL]
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
introduction: much has been said about the jw judicial committee system, and all the negatives, along with some concurrent shepherding visits.
the purpose of this short series is to discuss how and why we made shepherding visits, and what those visits were like from the perspective as elders.
nothing here is designed to be self-serving, self-indulgent, or self-justifying ... it needs to be told from the vantage point of how we felt at the time, and what we thought we were accomplishing ... though blind to the hurt and harm some of this caused.. ps: future installments will eliminate the background, and be shorter.. background: our congregation was known as the armpit of the circuit because of high inactivity, high irregularity.
This is Amazing ... because this is what I've been saying for years. As far as your ACOA reference. Well, and shepherding calls are useless as too. I got into an argument with a drinker elder about whether individuals should seek outside help once. *surprised? * This was our last shepherding call about 5-6 yrs ago. Do you I think they're afraid to come back?
Most of the people in the congs suffer from untreated alcoholism/substance abuse. If they aren't abusers then they're an Adult Children of Alcoholics (ACOA).
Have you read any of John Bradshaw or Claudia Blackwells books. You would like John Bradshaw he's a Ph.D. psych, studied in seminary (to become a priest), he was ACOA, he is in AA NA , his mother and grandmother were both victums of incest. He discusses how he was deeply affected by it all and how to recover from these experiences. I think you may connect with him. Read John Bradshaw: The Family A revolutionary way to self discovery. I think you would like it very much.
Check out my statement here:
http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=98aa75f511b6cdd22c7c69b770cfec9b&threadid=104
[Disclaimer: contrary to popular belief I have not taken anyone's side because I post at Kents...it's just quiet over their for now and I've gotten some thoughtful replies because my treads don't get lost in the sex threads]
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
http://www.deathclock.com/.
sadistic friday, april 18, 2003 .
pessimistic monday, april 3, 2023 .
I don't really want to know about when I'm gonna die. You seem to be preoccupied with death gravedancer. As an atheist why worry?
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
where do you see yourself in 5 or 10 yrs?
what do you really want to do with your life?
are you living your dreams or just dreaming to live?
Larc, LOL smart move!
? Spend my money before the doctors have a chance to get their hands on it.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
where do you see yourself in 5 or 10 yrs?
what do you really want to do with your life?
are you living your dreams or just dreaming to live?
If I continue to be creative and productive all my days...then I'll be happy. That's what I've found out about myself. As a JW my creativity was suppressed. They tend to shame anyone that pursues anything but preaching. So if I can do my work in peace then I will have serenity.
I'm currently working on a second bachelors degree. So, I'll probably be in graduate school since my field's master degree (an MFA), takes 3-4 years full time.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
http://www.tekzoned.com/whatswrong/index.html .
go to this site.
make sure your sound is up.
made me laugh BEE........why you guys scared of a pic?
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i was wondering:.
has anyone seen any of the governing body lately?
how is their health?
I haven't seen any of the GB lately but I have seen a few give talks at the KH or assemblies. These are the ones I remember:
Henschel............can't remember no impression left...must not be good
Barber................terrible speaker
Klien...................tolerable speaker
Swingle................fair speaker
Fred Franz...........was a very engaging speaker
The first time I saw Fred was at my first memorial back in the 80's near NYC. The last time I saw Fred was at Yankee stadium. (the last outdoor convention we had because of the heat) They carried Fred out to the podium around the diamond baseball field. (They aren't allowed to walk on the grass) He was wasn't lucid. He died within the next year or so.
We haven't seen them around lately.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
for the last year or so i've been mulling over quitting everything, becominga bum, and actually going to university.
i work with computers, and though the pay is good (hence my still doing it), i can't shake the feeling that this isn't what i'm supposed to be doing.
i want to do something with english.
Naebs, Go ahead and get started with one class that you know you will enjoy. Just make sure it's transferable to your local University. You'll figure it out as you go along. *see my reply else where*
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.