i was telling my daughter in law about this ongoing saga, with the elders and my mother.
she isn't a jw, and attends a christian church.. when i told her about calling the local elder, who is the presiding overseer, she asked me why i called that elder.
"is he the one in charge of helping the elderly?
I bet every elder would jump at the chance for that assignment. Overseeing the elderly... hahah Yeah right! Don't you think it would be considered by many of them to be a lesser assigment.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
mom and i have both talked to the elders at her kh, to tell them what the guy at patterson told us........that there is no problem with her living here, and that people should be visiting her.
mom misunderstood, and thought she was supposed to call all the elders.
i am sure the fellow meant to tell an elder, so he could tell the others.
I would call the CO and tell him what this elder said to your frail ninety year old devout JW mother. How can they call themselves ministers, this really makes me sick. They are worse than some priests. They criticize how priests aren’t compassionate. At least the Catholic priests visit the elderly in nursing homes. Of course donations are expected by the priests. But, as JW they aren’t supposed to care about receiving anything back. All they care about is pushing those mags and making new disciples. The old ones that can’t go out in service are forgotten.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
was expecting a girlfriend over this morning - rushed to the door when bell rang.
to my surprise/horror, there were 2 jws ... apparently when my mother was visiting last summer, she had mentioned to these "sisters" to come stop by every once in a while, to encourage me to go to meetings.
they were inviting me to the special talk this sunday ... i politely told them, thanks for the invitation but i already had plans for sunday (sleeping in) ... i don't want to be rude, b/c these 2 particular women are pleasant (it could very well be a farce) but how do i get across to them that i do not wish to be visited in the future?
If they come back. Ask them for their email. Talk about how your always on the internet. Tell them how you would love to send them interesting articles about JWs. Think they would get the hint.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
this could be my last post over on greatcrowd.net.. i just wanted everyone to see it before i went down.. (please scroll down to the bottom).
http://www.greatcrowd.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=25&t=000011.
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Your last post! My first post over there was my last...lol
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
introduction: much has been said about the jw judicial committee system, and all the negatives, along with some concurrent shepherding visits.
the purpose of this short series is to discuss how and why we made shepherding visits, and what those visits were like from the perspective as elders.
nothing here is designed to be self-serving, self-indulgent, or self-justifying ... it needs to be told from the vantage point of how we felt at the time, and what we thought we were accomplishing ... though blind to the hurt and harm some of this caused.. ps: future installments will eliminate the background, and be shorter.. background: our congregation was known as the armpit of the circuit because of high inactivity, high irregularity.
I wouldn't say I'm a fan of John Bradshaw. He is just someone that I've learned from. I read many other opinions as well. I just thought Amazing would connect with him because they both have been affected by similar experiences.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
introduction: much has been said about the jw judicial committee system, and all the negatives, along with some concurrent shepherding visits.
the purpose of this short series is to discuss how and why we made shepherding visits, and what those visits were like from the perspective as elders.
nothing here is designed to be self-serving, self-indulgent, or self-justifying ... it needs to be told from the vantage point of how we felt at the time, and what we thought we were accomplishing ... though blind to the hurt and harm some of this caused.. ps: future installments will eliminate the background, and be shorter.. background: our congregation was known as the armpit of the circuit because of high inactivity, high irregularity.
Amazing, I also have the shame book and most of Bradshaw's books as well as many of his seminar tapes. The healing the shame that binds you is one of his best.
I have to agree with you on this:
I have read John Bradshaw's book, healing the Shame that Binds You, and I watched his series on PBS. He is very excellent, and provides more useful information in one hour than a hundred JW Eler visits.very interesting Amazing
[edited for posting while sleeping...lots of errors LOL]
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
introduction: much has been said about the jw judicial committee system, and all the negatives, along with some concurrent shepherding visits.
the purpose of this short series is to discuss how and why we made shepherding visits, and what those visits were like from the perspective as elders.
nothing here is designed to be self-serving, self-indulgent, or self-justifying ... it needs to be told from the vantage point of how we felt at the time, and what we thought we were accomplishing ... though blind to the hurt and harm some of this caused.. ps: future installments will eliminate the background, and be shorter.. background: our congregation was known as the armpit of the circuit because of high inactivity, high irregularity.
This is Amazing ... because this is what I've been saying for years. As far as your ACOA reference. Well, and shepherding calls are useless as too. I got into an argument with a drinker elder about whether individuals should seek outside help once. *surprised? * This was our last shepherding call about 5-6 yrs ago. Do you I think they're afraid to come back?
Most of the people in the congs suffer from untreated alcoholism/substance abuse. If they aren't abusers then they're an Adult Children of Alcoholics (ACOA).
Have you read any of John Bradshaw or Claudia Blackwells books. You would like John Bradshaw he's a Ph.D. psych, studied in seminary (to become a priest), he was ACOA, he is in AA NA , his mother and grandmother were both victums of incest. He discusses how he was deeply affected by it all and how to recover from these experiences. I think you may connect with him. Read John Bradshaw: The Family A revolutionary way to self discovery. I think you would like it very much.
Check out my statement here:
http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=98aa75f511b6cdd22c7c69b770cfec9b&threadid=104
[Disclaimer: contrary to popular belief I have not taken anyone's side because I post at Kents...it's just quiet over their for now and I've gotten some thoughtful replies because my treads don't get lost in the sex threads]
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
http://www.deathclock.com/.
sadistic friday, april 18, 2003 .
pessimistic monday, april 3, 2023 .
I don't really want to know about when I'm gonna die. You seem to be preoccupied with death gravedancer. As an atheist why worry?
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
where do you see yourself in 5 or 10 yrs?
what do you really want to do with your life?
are you living your dreams or just dreaming to live?
Larc, LOL smart move!
? Spend my money before the doctors have a chance to get their hands on it.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
where do you see yourself in 5 or 10 yrs?
what do you really want to do with your life?
are you living your dreams or just dreaming to live?
If I continue to be creative and productive all my days...then I'll be happy. That's what I've found out about myself. As a JW my creativity was suppressed. They tend to shame anyone that pursues anything but preaching. So if I can do my work in peace then I will have serenity.
I'm currently working on a second bachelors degree. So, I'll probably be in graduate school since my field's master degree (an MFA), takes 3-4 years full time.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
